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New Orleans: more background material

Religion and Ethics Newsweekly, in addition to its main story, U.S. Episcopal Bishops Meeting in New Orleans has four interviews:
Bishop Charles Jenkins
Presiding Bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori
Bishop John Chane
Bishop John Guernsey

The speech of Bishop Mouneer Anis Bishop of Egypt with North Africa and the Horn of Africa, Presiding Bishop of Jerusalem and the Middle East, has been published, and can be read in full here.

The statement of Bishop Marc Andrus of California has also been published here.

Bishop Kirk Smith of Arizona wrote an email about his reactions to the first day.

Andrew Goddard wrote a letter on 16 September which only got published yesterday, in which he writes about New Orleans and the Anglican Communion.

Friday’s press conference can be viewed in full by going to Episcopal News Service here.

Andrew Carey wrote in the Church of England Newspaper Schism is not the Answer.

Kendall Harmon wrote on titusonenine What Would a Radical Solution Look Like?

The sermon preached by the Archbishop of Canterbury is here: Sermon Preached at the Ernest N. Morial Convention Center New Orleans.

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Lisa Fox
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The Episcopal Church has also posted the Friday press conference online. Folks can find it here:
http://www.episcopalchurch.org/80056_ENG_HTM.htm
It’s a little better (aesthetically) than the one at Anglican TV. That’s not surprising, given TEC’s resources, nor is it an aspersion on Anglican TV. I simply thought folks might want the option.

Pluralist
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Having just come back from an excellent discussion (it was my talk but turned out to be a two hour conversation) on why liberal groups do not get together, among people who knew many of the personalities involved, it seems to me that The Episcopal Church is at a crossroads. I see on Titus One Nine a call for The Episcopal Church to deny its own place at Lambeth, of all of them. The reason that does not work is that then the main people to talk with are not there. The Archbishop of Canterbury clearly stayed semi-detached – no… Read more »

Cheryl Clough
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Lisa Thanks for the video link, it is excellent. One of the first questions Rowan answers relates directly to the strategies that conservatives are advocating. It covers the question of why Rowan is committed to having Lambeth proceed in 2008 and having all invited (back to that after the next paragraph). What we are currently seeing are a rush of conservative ultimatums: Dar Salaam was meant to be a “make or break”, but is no longer. TEC should disinvite itself from Lambeth, so that their voices can’t be heard nor their ministry reasoning explained or clarified (phooey to the titusonline… Read more »

Cynthia Gilliatt
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Cynthia Gilliatt

It’s too bad that the ABC had to depart so abruptly. It might have done him good to shed his clericals and put on jeans and a tee shirt and boots and work gloves and pitch in to help someone build or rebuld a home. I wonder too if he – like the TEC bishops – brought a check to help. The suggested donation was $10,000 per diocese. I guess the ABC could have spared that from the whole C of E. Did he? The bishops from the Diocese of Virginia did each work on a project today, and I… Read more »

Pluralist
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Interesting, isn’t it, how the events of Rowan’s visit has left here at least underwhelmed with comments. There is a real sense that nothing happened.

Perhaps we ought to wait for Tuesday and then the sounds of other purple shirts being rolled up arms.

JPM
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JPM

>>>Interesting, isn’t it, how the events of Rowan’s visit has left here at least underwhelmed with comments. There is a real sense that nothing happened. For a lot of us here in the U.S., the word “Anglicans” has come to mean “angry foreign fundamentalists who shout all the time.” The thought of no longer being a part of such a thing seems to many of us more a relief than something to be dreaded. Here is the situation in my own diocese, a quite conservative one in the South, much more evangelical than catholic. Our bishop is a theological conservative… Read more »

Cheryl Va. Clough
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JPM You wrote “If Rowan has lost dioceses like ours, then he has truly lost TEC.”‘ TEC needs to know that there are dioceses who are deliberately destroying parishes like yours. We need TEC because some dioceses offer no refuge for such souls, and Lambeth has been quiet (and thus complicit) with the systemic constriction that is happening in some dioceses. God willing, enough souls are seeing enough of others’ cruelty to realise this is a distortion of Jesus’ prayers and teachings. The acid test will be those who see Jesus as trying to placate and woo the Daughter of… Read more »

Pluralist
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Once again in his piece Andrew Carey tries to justify his comparison of The Episcopal Church to Unitarianism. I think he ought to just examine this further. It does not equate; it is not near. In my recent talk I was able to look at this – and see the difference even between the Liberal Catholic Church International and its pathway, and the Liberal Rite and its, the latter having a definite Unitarian connection and, I might say, one yet rejected by presumably the General Assembly. And TEC is neither of these, not at all. Someone elsewhere commenting on the… Read more »

JPM
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JPM

Among the fundamentalists, Unitarian simply means “that which I do not like.”

Cheryl Va. Clough
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Hi JPM Could Unitarian also mean “only that which I like”, perhaps with a subtext “and only if it will build my high mound higher above all others”? Some Unitarians state that God is one, God is only Jesus, and Jesus doesn’t talk to or listen to or need input from any others and is thus indifferent to the voices of conscience of matriarchs and patriarchs or prophets or saints. Their Jesus is much less flexible that the real Jesus. The real Jesus could cope with the unexpected. He started out his ministry with the understanding and intent that he… Read more »