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reports of the Chartres letter

Guardian Riazat Butt Priest rebuked for ‘marrying’ gay vicars in church

Telegraph Martin Beckford Bishop of London issues stern rebuke to vicar who conducted gay ‘wedding’ and

Gay ‘wedding’ row reveals Church’s true source of conflict by George Pitcher

Times Ruth Gledhill on her blog has Gay blessing: ‘Four bishops in the sanctuary’

and later, Bishop of London Richard Chartres attacks gay priests’ ‘wedding’

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What I just said in response to George Pitcher’s condemnation of Rev. Dudley, at the Torygraph (we’ll see if it’s published there):

Oh pish-posh, Mr. Pitcher. Do you think Rosa Parks, choosing to sit in the front of the Alabama bus, was not lectured DOWN at, in precisely the same way?

“We make the way by walking it”: it has EVER been thus. Praise God for the Glory of ALL the saints!

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Technically and legally, of course, the bishop of London is well within his institutional frame, as in some ways it would seem, so is the parson freeholder. The real trouble is that I do not follow Jesus in modern daily life so that I can spend a whole lot of time and energy, trapped by this specious Anglican either/or. Is my discipleship choice, either I joust with conservatives who keep asking for hermeneutics and empirical data which reliably get studiously ignored or spin dried out of meaningful conservative presuppositional existence, or I am all set up to play the stock… Read more »

Bob In PA
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Bob In PA

I found Mr. Pitcher’s language a little over the top. He must consult a thesarus and pick out the most smartly sounding alternative and plug it in.

As we all have noted, the Titles of each article is so sensationalized. It’s a shame we just don’t get clean, unbiased reporting anymore.

Spirit of Vatican II
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Calling Fr Dudley “high camp” is juvenile — you might as well conflate “high church” and “high camp” altogether, which would be highly offensive to the worshipper at St. Bartholomew’s.

The ranters go on and on about infidelity to the Bible. Yes, what a pity the Church of England does not follow Scripture — if it did gospel charity and that freedom for which Christ has set us free would triumph more often.

Martin Reynolds
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Martin Reynolds

The inestimable Chancellor Behrens has given this obviously “off the cuff” reaction reported on Ruth Gledhill’s Blog – he is a formidable lawyer who also acts as a Judge – he is also a charming gentleman. Well, it is very nearly completely clear now (according to Dr Behrens) that this was NOT a wedding – though just at the end he wobbles and calls it a wedding in all but name …… perhaps that accounts for all the confusion elsewhere! I am sure we are all helped to know that the Bishop’s Statement on Civil Partnerships has no legal force… Read more »

Cheryl Va.
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Pilcher wrote “Importantly, liberals can delay change to orthodox teaching through unilateral and unauthorised stunts.” The contra “Importantly, conservatives can delay change to liberal teaching through unilateral and unauthorised stunts.” A few examples: – Klu Klux Klan burning blacks on crosses – Church leaderships aiding and abetting pedophiles and misogynists (God does not care about “least of these”) – Drowning or burning “witches” – Going to war in God’s name based on lies – Genocidal attempts against Jews, indigenous peoples, non-Christians (including using “Peace Corps” to sterilise Guatamalean Indian Women) Christians have had over 2000 years and still the marginalized… Read more »

Ford Elms
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Ford Elms

“you might as well conflate “high church” and “high camp” altogether”

Don’t we anyway:-)

Göran Koch-Swahne
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“Technically and legally, of course, the bishop of London is well within his institutional frame…”

So were the Pharisees, Dr Dan.