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more from the blogs on the Southwark election

The Church Times blog has a useful set of links to earlier events at The Telegraph reports that Jeffrey John is the ‘favoured candidate’ for Bishop of Southwark post

Colin Coward has his analysis at Changing Attitude in The new paradigm unfolds on Radio 4 between Chris Sugden and Giles Fraser!

Jim Naughton has an American view at the Episcopal Café in Not entirely baseless speculation about the Jeffrey John situation.

John Richardson wrote at The Ugley Vicar Be very careful before you object to Dr John.

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Nom de Plume

Question: if Dr John is appointed Bishop of Southwark, will Dr Williams receive a letter from Kenneth Kearon?

Pantycelyn
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Pantycelyn

I think John Richardson’s thing is very fair.

But I despair of some those commentating on his piece.

bobinswpa
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bobinswpa

I see a lot of the phrase “Christian Teaching.” Just a thought, “shouldn’t Christianity be lived, not taught?” Is there room for the Spirit to teach in action?

I posted this on the Ugly Vicar. I get the impression its more about learning rules than living a life in service (at least with many evangelicals).

Tobias Haller
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Bobin SWPA: Christianity is fine unless one is ecclesiastically “active.”

badman
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evensongjunkie
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evensongjunkie

“I get the impression its more about learning rules than living a life in service (at least with many evangelicals).”

Uh, can you say the word ‘control’ bob?

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Martin Reynolds

It should be remembered that for weeks Rowan resolutely defended Jeffrey’s appointment – perhaps some might recall his press conferences on the lawn where he told us of the dog turds and other stuff he had received in the post, he was appalled at the naked homophobia and the viciousness of fellow Christians. Then suddenly he decided it was off. The explanation I had (Jeffrey had none) was that one (or perhaps two) Asian bishops had rung Rowan and told him “Christians would die – there will be blood on the streets – if you go ahead” Presumably, as my… Read more »

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There is a further, horrifying post by Colin Coward at Changing Attitude headed: ‘Uganda missing gay man found beheaded in a farm latrine while the CofE worries about Jeffrey John’ ‘A search for a missing pro-gay priest, the Rev Henry Kayizzi Nsubuga, who disappeared almost two and half weeks ago after delivering a scathing speech at St. Paul’s Church, Kanyanya supporting homosexuality in Uganda, led the joint search team of Integrity Uganda and Namirembe Diocese to the severed head of another person… Judith Nabakooba, a police spokesperson, identified the head as that of Pasikali Kashusbe, one of the workers on… Read more »

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drdanfee

Wow, Canon Sugden is entirely retrograde and empty-headed in his remarks. I’m afraid the more thorough public media exposure his flat earthisms about queer folks get, the more flat earth his prejudices can be weighed to be? Meanwhile, how very painful. Bravo Southwark for actually putting something positive about queer folks in the person specifications. Isn’t that by itself enough to justify the split that Sugden obviously desires and would so sadistically relish? He certainly enjoys the threat, sufficiently. Or is that other missing-neglected half of Lambeth 1998 1.10 suddenly going to resurrect to provide cover? If NT standards=flat earth… Read more »

badman
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badman

Martin Reynolds is right (as usual!). Jeffrey John’s appointment would be just to him; welcome to us; and deeply symbolic. But he might feel he had to pull his punches a bit – just as Rowan Williams has once in office. If Jeffrey John is NOT appointed (whether or not he was ever, really, the favourite), the person who is appointed will be able to take a firm line against the separatists.

Pantycelyn
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Pantycelyn

Yes, it’s gay blood that is spilt — nothing new there. ‘There is a further, horrifying post by Colin Coward at Changing Attitude headed: ‘Uganda missing gay man found beheaded in a farm latrine while the CofE worries about Jeffrey John’ ‘A search for a missing pro-gay priest, the Rev Henry Kayizzi Nsubuga, who disappeared almost two and half weeks ago after delivering a scathing speech at St. Paul’s Church, Kanyanya supporting homosexuality in Uganda, led the joint search team of Integrity Uganda and Namirembe Diocese to the severed head of another person… Judith Nabakooba, a police spokesperson, identified the… Read more »

Laurence
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Laurence

“Do preachers like Sugden actually know any thriving-capable queer folks as citizens, let alone as believers?”

Indeed he does. But whether they want to know him is another matter.