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Church Times on episcopal resignations

In today’s Church Times Ed Beavan writes that Flying bishops move as eleventh hour approaches. The article includes this paragraph about the flying bishop who has not resigned:

The third flying bishop, the Bishop of Beverley, the Rt Revd Martyn Jarrett, has said that he will not be going over to Rome. Speaking on Wednes­day, he said that he saw his task as being “to convince the Church of England to make proper provision for people who hold my views”. He said that he desperately wanted to stay, “as do the over­whelming majority of people I care for”.

There is also this leading article: The first departures to the Ordinariate.

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Andrew

I am the only one to think that the British media are making too much of this? Two retired clergymen and three serving bishops, two flying, have decided to become Roman Catholics. People change religions all the time; here in California it is estimated that 49 percent of all people have changed at least once. The Church of England is one of the great institutions of the world. Why does it tremor in response to the departure of a very small group of people who prefer to submit to the Pope of Rome? The Roman Catholic Church does not worry… Read more »

Simon Dawson
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The Church Times asks an interesting question. ” For the Church to effect a significant change — to open up the episcopate to women, for example — it requires a two-thirds majority in each of the three Houses. What has never been clear, though, is the fate of the other third. Is it supposed to bow to the will of the majority? Or is the majority supposed to take account of the minority?” I thought we had decided this question years ago, with St Benedict writing on the spiritual benefits of obedience. “The first degree of humility is obedience without… Read more »

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“The Church Times asks an interesting question. ” For the Church to effect a significant change — to open up the episcopate to women, for example” Interesting assumption. Certainly, opening up the episcopate is significant to the women who have previously been excluded. And it’s significant, in relation to the theological claims of the Church (that human beings, male and female, are Made in the Image and Likeness of God). But is it really THAT significant, to the FUNCTION of the episcopacy? That something in the Y chromosome, or male morphology, has been vital to the ministry of the episcopate?… Read more »

john
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Well,

I think that all here should raise their glasses to the Bishop of Beverley. He has made it quite clear where his heart lies. So – it seems – have almost all of his people. So – earlier – did Father Trevor Jones. Jarrett is also – as an earlier post made clear – a gracious gentleman who is no bigot. He gets the proportions right – no threats, no ‘or elses’, just an honourable fight within Anglicanism.

We should do all in our power to retain him and his people.

Father Ron Smith
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John, you display a noble sentiment in your ‘vote of confidence’ on the Bishop of Beverly, who has, quite rightly in my opininion, deicded to remain obedient to his vows as priest and bishop in the Church of England, to obey the polity of that Church. What, however, is still to be seen, is whether he will maintain that loyalty if, by the passage of the legislation for women bishops at the General Synod, his desire for ‘special provision’ for dissenters from the measure is not sufficiently generous to meet his requirement? No doubt, the good Bishop’s monastic formation has… Read more »

Perry Butler
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Perry Butler

Its not just the British media that is hyping this. Look at the Time Magazine article…the departure of the five bishops is apparently the biggest crisis in the Church of England since 1534. I suspect many ordinary americans know little of english history..but I wish some reputable american historian of english history might correct this rubbish

Father Ron Smith
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re my comment on Friday, 12 November: I have been informed that Bishop Martyn Jarrett is not the same person as Fr. Martin Jarret-Kerr – who was actually a member of the Anglican Community of the Resurrection at Mirfield. My correspondent informed me that Bishop Martyn was a fellow theolog. at Bristol – already married, so no fear of women there! Just a theological difference!

Apologies to both persons

Thank you Perry, for your fellowship in Gospel!