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Developments in West Yorkshire and The Dales

The Church Times has a news story, New diocese sets out job spec. for Bishop of Leeds.

HE WILL be a “resilient leader” with “enough confidence and inner strength to use conflict creatively”. He will tackle “dented morale” among lay people, and chair a diocesan synod of more than 300 members. He will relish the possibility of a “huge change programme” in the most populous diocese in the Church of England.

The statement of need for the diocese of West Yorkshire & the Dales, published last Friday, makes clear the extent of the challenge facing its first Bishop…

The full Statement of Needs can be read from here, as a PDF.

In other reports, Bradford has the news that Former Bishop of Southwark to be ‘Mentor Bishop’

Until a Diocesan Bishop is appointed for the new Diocese of West Yorkshire & the Dales, the Archbishop of York has appointed the Rt Revd Tom Butler as ‘Mentor Bishop’ to give episcopal advice to Programme Director John Tuckett.

Bishop Tom, who’s well known for his Thoughts for the Day on Radio 4, is the former Bishop of Southwark and, having retired in 2010, now lives in Wakefield. He knows the area well: he gained his doctorate in electronics from Leeds University and trained for ordination at the College of the Resurrection in Mirfield.

John Tuckett says, “Bishop Tom has a wealth of expertise and experience, and it will be hugely valuable for me to have someone to go to for independent advice, not least because, as the former Bishop of Southwark, he understands how a diocese with an area model works.”

The archbishop is also to appoint Bishop Tom as the Chair of the Shadow Board of Finance for the new Diocese. And Bradford Diocesan Synod has given its consent for Bishop Tom to become Acting Diocesan Bishop during Bishop Nick Baines’s sabbatical, from February to April…

From Wakefield we learn that the Bishop of Wakefield will return to his roots after diocese dissolved

The Bishop of London, Richard Chartres, has just announced the appointment of The Rt Revd Stephen Platten as the new Rector of St Michael’s Cornhill church and an honorary assistant Bishop in the Diocese of London.

Stephen will take up the position at St Michael’s in July 2014. This is in addition to his new position as chair of the Hymns Ancient and Modern charitable trust which he will assume at the end of January…

This is also reported by London.

And the Yorkshire Evening Post has John Packer: Bishop of Ripon and Leeds looks back as he bows out.

…To clarify, it is officially retirement, but the bishop cheerfully admits it is redundancy in a way since he is going earlier than the mandatory 70 years of age because his patch is disappearing. There will be no more bishops of Ripon and Leeds.

Two other bishops are meeting the same fate as the Church of England massively restructures the area. The big new job will be as Bishop of Leeds and it has already been advertised, calling for “an experienced, inspiring leader with a heart for the people.”

Bishop John is completely in favour of the change: “Our boundaries do not make sense.and the changes will help us to focus our ministry more effectively,” he says…

Further information about the progress of the new diocese can be found at a new website, designed specifically for the Transformation Programme for the Diocese of West Yorkshire and The Dales. One to keep an eye on.

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Jeremy Pemberton
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Jeremy Pemberton

Congratulations to the Transformation Programme for the website. Very helpful and instructive. Prayers for them all as they head into 2014! I think it looks exciting.

Concerned Anglican
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Concerned Anglican

Packer to retire, Platten fixed up with a job in London, Tom Butler for the regency … Nick Baines it is then as the new super bishop … that’s it all done and dusted.

Tim
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Wake me up when he can be a she.

Dan BD
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Interesting. Looks (from a skim-read of the Statement of Needs) like they want someone who’s BOTH already been a diocesan bishop (for a little while) AND who won’t be in the Lords before, say, August 2017. Only one bishop currently in a diocesan see won’t be in the Lords by August 2017: Julian Henderson, the newest bishop.

Then there’s Nick Baines, who – IIRC – slips to the back of the ‘queue’ (for the Lords) iff he doesn’t translate directly to another diocesan see from Bradford…

There’s one man in the CofE who’d fit what they seem to want.

Dan BD
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(My above calculations assume all bishops whose retirements haven’t been announced serving until their 70th birthdays; it’s therefore quite probable Henderson would get to the Lords before August 2017.)

J Drever
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J Drever

We all hope that the new structures will be a success, but let us not mince words: this change represents a significant tactical retreat by the Church in Yorkshire. Whilst it cannot be denied that the Bradford and Wakefield dioceses were unduly small, and their demographics have changed quite radically in the last few decades, the suppression of three dioceses has something of the appearance of a rout about it. If memory serves, Wakefield was unwilling to commit hari-kari – but their objections were to no avail. Moreover, many of the pre-existing structures immediately below the level of diocesans will… Read more »

Pluralist
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The map shows a ridiculous geographical area. It only makes sense from the south of Skipton. What do the others going further north have to do with Leeds?

Tim Chesterton
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My diocese of Edmonton in western Canada has 55 parishes, spread out over a geographical area much larger than that of the new diocese of West Yorkshire and the Dales. And it is financially viable.

I find it hard to discover how many parishes the new diocese will have, but the website of the current diocese of Wakefield shows 79 parishes with websites; I suspect there are many more that do not have websites. So I can’t see that Wakefield is ‘unduly small’.

Malcolm
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Malcolm

Tim. Last page of Statement of Needs sets out the data you want.

peter kettle
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Tom Butler, of course, promoted Nick Baines from their previous diocese of Leicester to become an archdeacon and then area bishop in Southwark. If it is ‘Baines for Leeds’ then the handover from the last remaining bishop of the three dioceses to Butler and then back to Baines should at least be between guys who know each other!

Tim Chesterton
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Thanks Malcolm. So the smallest of the current dioceses is three times the size of my diocese (in terms of number of parishes), spread over a much smaller geographical area. If finance is what’s driving all this, I can’t see why the current dioceses can’t be made viable.

Father David
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Father David

Stephen Platten is the first Bishop of Wakefield in ages not to progress to a more significant diocese. Colin James to Winchester, David Hope to London then York and Nigel McCulloch to Manchester. Let it not be forgotten that the first Bishop of Wakefield William Walsham How turned down the offer of Durham.

Jim Pratt
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Jim Pratt

I don’t think financial viability should be the primary consideration or driving force for diocesan reorganizations. In Canada, we have the current example of the dissolution of Keewatin and creation of a new diocese, not determined by finance but by mission priorities — the old boundaries just did not make sense any longer. Similarly, in the Province of Canada, the Provincial Council has sidestepped any move toward a consolidation of dioceses for financial reasons, while continuing to look at how cooperation (which may or may not lead to eventual mergers or changes of boundaries) can enhance mission.

RPNewark
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RPNewark

And your point is, Father David? Please expand for I can’t see (yet) that it has any relevance.

Father David
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Father David

A mere observation RPNewark, a mere observation. Although in former times there were what were known as Bishoprics of Work and Bishoprics of Ease. For example, after wearing himself out as Bishop of Southwark, Cyril Garbett became Bishop of Winchester where he was able to sufficiently recover his strength in order to take on the onerous task of being Archbishop of York. Whoever become the first Bishop of the Anglican mega-diocese of Leeds will indeed have to be a “resilient leader” to cope with the heavy demands of the most populous diocese in the Church of England.

Christopher Hobbs
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Christopher Hobbs

Father David, where do you get this figure? The Diocese of London will still have a population about one million more than the new mega diocese of Leeds.

J Drever
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J Drever

Tim Chesterton asks why the current dioceses cannot be made viable. That is a very interesting question. My theory (which might deserve to be shot down) is that many dioceses are operating on a financial knife edge. They have significant overheads – not just in terms of management, buildings and stipends – but, more specifically pensions. It is worth remembering that the Church Commissioners (with the sanction of Synod) passed the liability for almost all pensions to the dioceses with effect from January 1998. The Commissioners retain the liability prior to that date. Now that decision was made at a… Read more »

Father David
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Father David

Dear Christopher Hobbs, with regards to the new mega-diocese of Leeds being the “most populous” see the introductory paragraph above where it is thus described. Thinking Anglicans get this information from a report in the Church Times.

Laurence Cunnington
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Laurence Cunnington

“even though clergy pensions are niggardly.” J Drever

The Church of England Defined Benefits Scheme is an excellent ‘final salary’ scheme providing non-contributory pensions of up to two-thirds of final salary, index-linked to RPI. Schemes this generous are becoming increasingly rare and are the sort usually referred to in the press as ‘gold-plated’ rather than ‘niggardly’! Two-thirds of not a lot may not be a lot but the scheme itself is first class.

That aside, I agree with the rest of your analysis.

Christopher Hobbs
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Christopher Hobbs

From the information in Church Statistics published by the Church of England the new diocese will be a lot smaller than London, somewhat smaller than Chelmsford and similar to Southwark in population.

Father David
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Father David

Dear Christopher Hobbs thank you for that correction. The new mega diocese of Leeds may not be the most populous but is it the largest in area? If so, does it cover more of England that the diocese of Lincoln which, I understand to be the largest in area prior to the creation of the diocese of Leeds? In his recent Presidential address to the Lincoln Diocesan Synod the current bishop told a story of when his predecessor was appointed as the new diocesan. Bishop Hardy was attending a meeting of newly appointed diocesans and they were all waxing lyrical… Read more »

Malcolm Dixon
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Malcolm Dixon

I agree with Concerned Anglican that the departure of two of the existing bishops, with the perfectly timed sabbatical of the third, exactly between the announcement of the new appointment and the inauguration of the new diocese, and the involvement of +Tom Butler, who has favoured him before, does make it look very much like a shoo-in for +Nick Baines. I have nothing against him, but I thought the CoE’s appointment process was supposed to be more open and inclusive than this would imply. Also, it might be less provocative to hurt feelings in the former dioceses if the new… Read more »

Pete Broadbent
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Pete Broadbent

No CNC related appointment is a shoo-in, simply because they always see more than one candidate, and the 6 Diocesan members are different in each appointment. The voting can’t therefore be controlled by the central members. Nick would in my view be an excellent candidate for what will be an extremely difficult task. It’s not an open process, though it probably ought to move in that direction. But there are no guarantees that anyone, however obvious they might be as the person most suitable for the office, will be a “shoo-in”.

Anthony Archer
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Anthony Archer

The CNC process will be no different for the new diocese of Leeds. Its six diocesan members have been elected (strangely predominantly from the diocese of Bradford) and the whole commission will consider a wide range of candidates, of whom the current Bishop of Bradford will be one. The candidate specification is clear, but exacting. It is most unlikely that the successful candidate is not already a bishop. He needs to have experience of an area scheme, quite apart from other skills, experience and qualities. That presupposes an existing diocesan or a high flying suffragan on the verge of preferment.… Read more »

Father David
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Father David

Why all this fuss and anxiety about someone being a shoo in? It would seem to me that the present Bishop of Bradford would fit the new mega diocese of Leeds like a glove. So, if the cap (or mitre) fits, then let Bishop Nick wear it.

Malcolm
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Malcolm

Anthony – how do you know that “the current Bishop of Bradford will be one” ? Leaking already!!

Father David
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Father David

I really cannot think that Mr. Archer can be accused of “leaking” seeing as anyone is free to submit names as possible candidates to be the first bishop of the new mega diocese of Leeds. I think we can be sure that many people will be suggesting Nick Baines as the “resilient” one to become + Nicholas Leeds

Malcolm Dixon
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Malcolm Dixon

Thank you +Pete and Anthony Archer for reassuring us that due process will be followed regarding this appointment. (I never really doubted it, although the unfortunate conjunction of announcements referred to earlier in this thread could easily be taken to suggest otherwise.) I add my prayers for the Commission meeting today.

tommiaquinas
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tommiaquinas

The thing about +Nick is that, before he is shunted out of office at Easter, the CNC will also have met to discuss the diocesan bishopric of his hometown, where he would also be excellent…

Father David
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Father David

Having just seen the first BBC4 programme on Wakefield cathedral whoever is appointed the first Bishop of Leeds is going to have his work cut out in creating a sense of unity when the three former dioceses merge. Having created a beautiful and flexible nave to the glory of God it was so sad to see the Dean contemplating the future of a dissolved diocese.

Dan BD
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Senior suffragans with Area Scheme experience, eh? A few of them: Dorchester, Willesden, Kingston, Buckingham, Wolverhampton…

Father David
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Father David

I see from the Clerical Whispers website that the new mega diocese of Leeds is just a mere 2425 square miles as opposed to the diocese of Lincoln’s 2673 square miles – smaller by 148 square miles. I further note from the same blog that the current Bishop of Bradford is to go on sabbatical from 1st February until “the Appointed Day” (a phrase which always makes me think of the Parousia) – often a sure indication that the person who is taking the sabbatical is destined for higher things. With regard to tommiaquinas’ hint that Bishop Baines might return… Read more »