Sunday, 9 July 2006

General Synod business: Sunday afternoon

The official report is here.

Ruth Gledhill’s blog entry is here.

Posted by Simon Sarmiento on Sunday, 9 July 2006 at 6:40pm BST | TrackBack
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I just read a bizarre piece on the Pontifications weblog claiming that Rowan Williams has performed an Abrahamic sacrifice of liberal Anglicanism in a "teleological suspension of the ethical".

Rowan Williams is steeped in the complexities of the upper reaches of the Anglican bureaucracy. He loves the game and is a master of it. It brings the usual occupational hazards. But he has surely not advanced to such dizzying heights of Machiavellian realpolitik as the inventor of this grotesque thesis supposes.

I don't see him as sacrificing gays or his own earlier liberalism, so much as stressing the value of church unity and the tragic consequences of disunity. Naturally this entails a stress on caution and patience rather than prophetic daring etc.

As he rightly points out, the controverted issues divide, or potentially divide, all communities everywhere today, so that the fissiparous process would not result in a pure bloc on the one side over against a tainted one on the other.

Here is what he says the ECUSA and its move to ordain openly gay bishops: "It is true that witness to what is passionately believed to be the truth sometimes appears a higher value than unity, and there are moving and inspiring examples in the twentieth century. If someone genuinely thinks that a move like the ordination of a practising gay bishop is that sort of thing, it is understandable that they are prepared to risk the breakage of a unity they can only see as false or corrupt. But the risk is a real one; and it is never easy to recognise when the moment of inevitable separation has arrived – to recognise that this is the issue on which you stand or fall and that this is the great issue of faithfulness to the gospel. The nature of prophetic action is that you do not have a cast-iron guarantee that you’re right."

This does not exclude the possibility that ordaining gay bishops is a prophetic action.

The debate now raging in Anglicanism has not even begun in the RCC. Those who fled Anglicanism to avoid the horrors of gay-friendly liberal theology may find the same horrors awaiting them in their new home.

Posted by: Spirit of Vatican II on Monday, 10 July 2006 at 6:08am BST

"prepared to risk the breakage of a unity they can only see as false or corrupt"

Indeed: rather like Herod and Pilate "making peace" in order to crucify Jesus?

"But the risk is a real one; and it is never easy to recognise when the moment of inevitable separation has arrived – to recognise that this is the issue on which you stand or fall and that this is the great issue of faithfulness to the gospel. The nature of prophetic action is that you do not have a cast-iron guarantee that you’re right"

Of course---but I don't think Rowan has the proper focus.

While (ostensibly) speaking to the CofE, he seems to be addressing TEC.

What of those who RESIST the prophetic? What are *their* risks???

There is a curious silence of Rowan re this: as if prophets exist in a vacuum, apart from those whom they're trying to *call back* to God and God's Righteousness.

TEC: "Anglican Communion? Anglican Communion, hello? Quit making this about *us* (and our bishop in New Hampshire): it's about YOU. It's about how you have *fallen away* from the Gospel, where God redeems ALL the Children of God (Not just those in het relationships, or celibate: All means ***ALL***!!!!). Come back, Anglican Communion! Return to the Lord your God!"

"A prophet is not without honor...": and indeed, there are LGBTs---AND sympathetic straights---who have never before darkened the door of a Christian Church, who *will* listen.

But will those "in our own country", the Anglican Communion, listen? Will they listen to (among others) the Episcopal Church (who, rather unwillingly, has had the mantle of the prophet thrust upon it), and return to the Gospel?

That is *the* question.

Posted by: J. C. Fisher on Monday, 10 July 2006 at 7:01pm BST

SoVII wrote, "I just read a bizarre piece on the Pontifications weblog..."

Heh. And if this is the first "bizarre piece" you've read from Al Kimel, pray go back and read some more. The man was quite the gadfly on various Episcopalian blogs until he swam the Tiber, and a veritable cornucopia of the bizarre awaits... ;)

"Those who fled Anglicanism to avoid the horrors of gay-friendly liberal theology may find the same horrors awaiting them in their new home."

I hope I may be forgiven a moment of schadenfreude as I contemplate this possibility.

Posted by: David Huff on Monday, 10 July 2006 at 8:17pm BST

David Huff
you may.

However, Please say 5 Hail Marys

(with Al Kimel's intention)

Posted by: Laurence Roberts on Tuesday, 11 July 2006 at 9:04am BST
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