Wednesday, 9 December 2009

LA and the Archbishop - Wednesday report

Bishop Alan Wilson wrote a further post, this one is titled Two ways to win an argument….

Richard Morrison in The Times wrote Nothing but sex please, we’re vicars…

Savi Hensman wrote for Ekklesia Liberating the Anglican understanding of sexuality.

The New York Times published an Associated Press report headlined Episcopal Lesbian Bishop Calls Election Liberating.

The Baltimore Sun published a report headlined Lesbian bishop-elect finds support as well as controversy and the transcript of the interview is at Glasspool: ‘I anticipated some kind of reaction’…

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Dear Dr. Rowan Williams,

Please click on the link connected to the Baltimore Sun video...the video features Canon Mary Douglas Glasspool, Suffragan Bishop-elect of the Episcopal Church diocese of Los Angeles. I know you are familiar with her election and I would hope that you will find, as I just did watching the video, greater peace of mind regarding her selection. There is a WHOLE world of wonderful and spiritual people
at the Anglican Communion...I strongly suggest you start paying attention to Gods reality and ALL of the BELOVED. Join us in the land of the LIVING CHRIST...you´ll like reality, it just takes some getting used to.

Thank you,
Leonardo Ricardo, Episcopalian/Anglican

Posted by: Leonardo Ricardo on Thursday, 10 December 2009 at 2:02am GMT

"It can be argued that debates about full acceptance of LGBT people are a distraction from more important matters, such as combating poverty. But acceptance of the victimisation of minorities, and refusal to address social issues in a way which draws on the insights of social science and which pays attention to the experience of the marginalised themselves, undermine the church’s capacity to encourage greater justice in society. - Savi Hensman -

As expected, Savi Hensman has her own unique take on the present controversy over the appointment of Mary Glasspool as a same-sex partnered bishop-elect in TEC. Her perspective is consistently that of a lay person who finds the culture of homophobia distasteful - as do most of us who share her views on the validity of the LGBT community in the Church.

Having just seen the video of an interview with the bishop-elect, via the Baltimore Sun web-site, I challenge any right-thinking Anglican to fault her reasoning on the inevitable path of progress being undertaken by the Episcopal Church in the U.S.A., which sees the ordination process as being open to everyone whom God may call into the ministry of Christ's Church - irrespective of their gender, race, or sexual orientation.

I really beluieve that TEC is carrying out a very important mission in it's witness to the Church and the World on this very important issue, and unless the rest of the Churches of our Communion are ready to look, listen and attend to what is going on in the area of inclusivity in the ranks of both clergy and laity in North america, and noting it's relevance to the world-wide mission of the Church, we may just be left behind.

The young people of our Churches need a vision of inclusivity that speaks of the Love of God in Christ that will inspire them in a time of global warming, continuing injustice and oppression of minority groups, and a lack of resources which is unparallelled in human history. How best can we do that - except by the acceptance of caring and loving relationships that extend beyond the nuclear family, into the whole gamut of human society?

This is not just a human justice issue, but one involving the integrity og God's Creation - as it has been revealed in all it's wonderful and sometimes puzzling diversity.

Posted by: Father Ron Smith on Thursday, 10 December 2009 at 10:17am GMT

Good video of Canon Glasspool!

Posted by: Göran Koch-Swahne on Thursday, 10 December 2009 at 1:19pm GMT

The Baltimore Sun has done the Communion a great service. We were able to see Mary, and listen to her journey in faith, and the challenge God has now placed before her, and her partner.

Mary's cv speaks clearly of a person who walks humbly with her Lord, and is therefore being richly Blessed. In turn she has been called to serve not only the dioces, but the whole Anglican Communion in faithful witness to Our Risen Lord who calls folk to love Him,and those with whom he gives us to share our life together.

God Bless Mary, and her partner in their future pilgrimage together, in our beloved Anglican Communion.

Fr John (SCOTLAND)

Posted by: Fr John E. Harris-White on Thursday, 10 December 2009 at 3:29pm GMT

" Justice for creation and “justice for God’s human children”, were inseparable. It was “parti­cularly silly” to think there was a choice between looking after humans and looking after the planet." - the ABC at Climate Change Meeting -

In this statement, made by the Archbishop of Canterbury at the recent Central Hall, Westminster
rally on Climate Change, he boldly accepts that *justice for God's human children* in inseparable from caring for the planet. Then Why, oh Why, does he not accept that the LGBT community needs the very same degree of caring nurture?

You cannot make statements like this without *putting your money where your mouth is*, as they say in Britain. When will TEC and the Anglican Church of Canada receive the respect they are looking for from the Archbishop of Canterbury, in the recent move to include a monogamously gay- partnered woman Bishop among the duly-elected leadership team in North America.

Perhaps the ABC is not aware that TEC's foundatuion was from the Episcopal Church of Scotland, a separate entity from the Church of England; which may just do things a little differently, and in context with the modern world outside of the conservative Church of England - and legally, according to it's own constitutional canonical government and polity.

No one could blame TEC if it were to abandon it's 'Ties of mutual affection' with the Church of England, in favour of a new sodality with Gospel-based Anglicans in other places. If this happens, the ABC will have helped the process.

Posted by: Father Ron Smith on Friday, 11 December 2009 at 7:14am GMT

"In this statement, made by the Archbishop of Canterbury at the recent Central Hall, Westminster
rally on Climate Change, he boldly accepts that *justice for God's human children* in inseparable from caring for the planet. Then Why, oh Why, does he not accept that the LGBT community needs the very same degree of caring nurture?"

I'm not sure that appeals to justice are the way to address the ordination of women and gay people. As we are often reminded, no one has a right to the Sacraments.

It seems to me that, rather than gay people and women having a right to ordination, that the Church has an obligation to God to ordain those whom He calls to the priesthood.

Posted by: BillyD on Monday, 14 December 2009 at 3:56pm GMT
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