Thursday, 11 February 2010

General Synod - Thursday morning press reports

Reports of Wednesday’s broadcasting debate are linked here and of the ACNA debate here.

On other matters there is this.

Martin Beckford in the Telegraph Church of England warned against thoughtless criticism of Armed Forces by senior padre

Posted by Peter Owen on Thursday, 11 February 2010 at 11:37am GMT | TrackBack
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While I agree with the "senior padre" about hamfisted theo-political preaching, I wonder if his pointing out that chaplains do not carry arms is a little disingenuous. If the situation is anything like what prevails among the Chaplain Corps of the US Navy, which provides chaplains for the USMC, it is. USN chaplains are also unarmed - but are accompanied by fully armed and trained Religious Programming Specialists (chaplain's assistants). The difference between shooting an enemy combatant oneself and, say, turning to the person next to you and saying, "RP Smith, be so good as to shoot that man" seems miniscule to me.

Posted by: Bill Dilworth on Thursday, 11 February 2010 at 3:23pm GMT

I don't know the situation of chaplains in the US or UK, but in Canada a) chaplains are unarmed and b) chaplains cannot exercise command over anyone except other chaplains.

An armed chaplain would be a violation of the Geneva Conventions and would invalidate the chaplain's protectyed status under the Conventions.

Posted by: Malcolm+ on Friday, 12 February 2010 at 6:44pm GMT

Interestingly, those redoubtable clergy who feel called to minister to Gays and dying HIV patients in hospices (a la Francis of Assisi with the local lepers of his day) are under the same sort of evangelical scrutiny as are service chaplains.

What is needed in our Churches is that radical openness to everyone that is the commitment of Jesus Christ in the Gospel. The Franciscan Prayer is a constant reminder of the need for a quality of unconditional love that will transform our world and the Church:

Lord, make me an instrument of your peace.
Where there is hatred, let me sow love.
Where there is injury (give) pardon.
Where there is doubt let me bring faith.
Where there is darkness let me shed light.
Where there is sadness let me bring joy.

O Divine Master, let me not look for help so much as to help; to be understood as to understand; to be loved as to love. For it is in giving that we receive; it is in pardoning that we are pardoned; and in dying (to self) we are born to eternal life

Posted by: Father Ron Smith on Friday, 12 February 2010 at 10:52pm GMT

Well, the RPs are there specifically as the chaplains' bodyguards. I suppose it's possible that they operate under standing orders to do so without the chaplain actually having to say, "Shoot him, please."

But if Canadian chaplains can't exercise command over anyone except other chaplains, how on earth do they run an office? Not all RPs serve with chaplains attached to USMC units; most assist chaplains in the fleet with administrative office work, setting up for religious services, and running on-board ships' libraries. Do Canadian chaplains have to do all their own paperwork, answer their own phones, and do the setting up themselves?

Posted by: BillyD/Bill Dilworth on Saturday, 13 February 2010 at 1:43am GMT
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