The pain continues.
It is just the same old "who hurt the other first" question.
Does theft get a free pass and should it not be challenged in law courts?
Doesn't the Bible decry theft?
Unfortunately, spin and whining and the "big lie" are the continued techniques of the -disappointed- right wing extremists.

I am trying to figure out why it is so hard to take seriously a man who refers to himself in the third person....

It could, of course, be that he is telling enormous lies--and slandering his coreligionists while he does it. But the "Royal We" adds that special patina of ridiculousness.

"WE are a grandmother !"

Doxy
Like so many before you, you are simply embarrassed by his humility.

Oh, and genocide isn't demonic. What a joke.

And the Church of Uganda's support of Anti LGBT legislation isn't demonic?

Um, demonic? Sighs. Good grief Charlie Brown.

Expects Snoopy to walk in from stage-left and tell us that this was all a figment of fuss-budget Lucy's sick imagination.

I suppose if anyone knows about "demonic" it would be +Peter Jasper of Abuja.

"It is not CANA going to court; it is the demonic powers in the so-called Episcopal Church that are suing CANA churches."

Strangely enough, "Thou Shalt Not Bear FALSE Witness Against Thy Neighbor" is still in MY Bible.

Lord have mercy!

I guess all this latest might offer us a telling clue as to what the grrrreat bishop may be doing after his retirement. I note two failures right off, insofar as PofA utterly omits mention of either his Windsor Rpt condemned border crossings - mentioning Minns is a nice dollop in that regard, since Minns is a sort of embodiment of the border cross in the first place; and insofar as PofA also rushes by any connecting of his own sorry-shaggy antigay narratives and RW's public apologies for these same/similar antigay narratives. It seems obvious that if TEC is doomed because it no longer believes/preaches a flat earth; then several other provinces must also be gone way downhill, including CoE?

It would all be so unnecessarily sad if it were not so proud of itself - this sort of global traditional campaigning that begs to preen as quintessentially Anglican and nothing but. I have a hard time weighing who is more pumped up on super holy hot air - xDuncan, Akinola, Oromobi, who?

Alas, and no mention, no mention at all of conservatives thieving the goods from anybody they disagree with, believers or non. Outside I see the self-righteous glare of painstakingly whitened sepulchres; inside - whew, smelly.

Lord have mercy. Soon arriving frankincensed and myrrhed and full-blown in England, and elsewhere ....

'Expects Snoopy to walk in from stage-left and tell us that this was all a figment of fuss-budget Lucy's sick imagination.'

This topic is taking a welcome turn towards sanity -- if only Peter Akinola and the 'religious right' would turn to Snoopy.

Is anglicanism or Snoopy the most benefical to our world ?

"Emmanuel Kampouris, the publisher of Kairos, a Christian journal, said owing to Akinola’s commitment to the Holy Bible he had spoken at various events in the world “telling the hard truth in love and encouraging those facing fiery trials.’" He commended his great courage, saying “ he is a Man who fears only God and we thank God for that."’

I think Akinloa's fear of God is understandable (his own 'fiery trial may yet be to come) - especially hearing his renewed rhetoric against the LGBT community while addressing the ACNA schismatics in North America.

The putative 'humility' of this prelate is little more than deriving from the 'humus' of sheep and cattle, oh, and of bulls in particular. His own experience of the demonic compels him to see everything in terms of his own environment in a country which demonises Gays, and in its more recent propaganda in Uganda and the Global South. One might question the integrity of a sodality - ACNA - which courts his blasphemous rhetoric.

We who know and understand the liberating power of Christ in the Gospel need to take this sort of Pharisaical nonsence much more seriously. It is time the Anglican Communion distanced itself from such maunderings. No wonder 'Global Warming' has become such a threat to the world, when the likes of Akinola and Orombi are stoking the fire.

We all need to take note of the Maundy Thursday antiphon: "Where charity and love are - there is God".

What is demonic are the behind the scenes plotting of the American Religious Right (ACNA) and Archbishop Akinola. It is truly a political war that is going on and it is all about the disenfranchising and marginalizing of the glbt community and women. It is everything that Jesus and his inclusive love are NOT about. It is shameful and the counterpart in the Roman Catholic Communion is the same reactionary elements that put Benedict (Joe Ratzinger) in the top spot as Bishop of Rome. In the long range, their hate filled rhetoric will come back to bite them and they will not look like disciples of Christ as much as they will look like small minded people who like to devalue other human beings who do not fit their narrow definition of "Christian".

"``Peter Akinola has been able to live a very active life and at the age of 66, it is not possible for him to go and sit down."
- Nigeria Anglican News-site -

This reminds me of my shcooldays. When any of us in class acted against propriety, we received six of the best. The result of all of that was what? We couldn't sit down, either!

++Peter, please tell us the REAL story regarding the Massacre of Yelwa.

++Peter, why do you name-call, and harm, children of LGBT Christians by referring to them as ¨Hooligan Children¨?

Speaking of Children, what has been your long-term ministry regarding stopping Child Witch sacrifices in Nigeria (they are increasing in number as I type)?

Why have you not made a ¨Pastoral Visit/Adios¨ trip to The Anglican Church in Colorado Springs that you were Archbishop of until YOU and the others were ordered out of Grace and St. Stephens by the authorities for trespassing and more. I realize there is a case pending but why don´t you encourage TRUTH and stand by Robert Armstrong, go ahead make him a Bishop it may help his IRS case?

Perhaps we should go to Malawi and ask Steven Monjeza and Tiwonge Chimalanga about "demonic" court proceedings.

Yea, the Massacre of Yelva. Inquiring minds want to know about Demonic.

Re: the possibility of a possible "fiery trial" for Akinola, I'm not sure if that's something any of us can predict, whether for ourselves or especially for others.

I for one hope that the Archbishop does indeed reach heaven. There he will be met by every gay saint in heaven and ushered in by an angelic choir of drag queens. Whether he enters through those pearly gates or flies the other way will be up to him.

I often wonder if bishops of the moderate mindset in The Church of England are just waiting for Akinola to be given enough rope to hang himself? He seems to be getting close to doing just that. Each statement he makes that devalues women and glbt people appears to backfire the same way that a similar event is backfiring in The Church of Rome. The progressive, Leadership Conference of Women Religious, which represents the vast majority of remaining Religious orders for women in North America is being "investigated" by a reactionary Cardinal Rode in Rome. He has similar political views to those of Akinola when it comes to women and like Akinola, he likes to disenfranchise and demonize those who do not fit his narrow and "orthodox" views of the place and role of women in the institutional Church. The more Rode conducts his witch hunt of these progressive and remarkable women who became liberated from the old ways of thinking as a result of renewal brought about by Vatican Council II, the more he alienates not only Roman Catholics but people from other religious persuasions who regard these witch hunts as unethical and unfair. It is so obvious that what we are watching unfold in both Anglican and Roman Churches is a political battle for the hearts and minds of Christians. My read is that the reactionary right are not only losing the battle but they are causing a rapid implosion of what I see as an imperial male dominated model of being Church. Given enough rope, perhaps Akinola will hang himself, and perhaps many Cof E bishops are waiting for the right time to tighten the rope. I have faith that these moderate minded bishops will do the right thing. Sad, that all of these events stray so far from the inclusive love of Jesus but if you look at these battles in purely political terms, I see great hope for glbt people and women in the future Church of both Anglican and Roman communions. Most believers and non-believers I meet are taking a very dim view of people like Akinola and Joe (Benedict) Ratzinger. They just aren't buying the hatred and violence that accompanies the words of these two so called religious "leaders."

"I often wonder if bishops of the moderate mindset in The Church of England are just waiting for Akinola to be given enough rope to hang himself?"

How much more does this person need for these moderates to respond? Do they need to see Akinola to personally beat to death a gay person with his own hands?

Cripes.

"How much more does this person need for these moderates to respond? Do they need to see Akinola to personally beat to death a gay person with his own hands?"

Now, now Cynthia, we mustn't interrupt the delicate negotiation process, or be bold enough to call a jerk a jerk. That might be demonic.

For some people in this world, if Akinola did beat a gay person to death, he'd probably be declared a saint on the spot and lauded as the perfect example of what a righteous Christian should do.

"For some people in this world, if Akinola did beat a gay person to death, he'd probably be declared a saint on the spot and lauded as the perfect example of what a righteous Christian should do."

He'd be billed as a second Phinehas (Numbers 25).

Jus sayin... what are the odds that somewhere in PofAs extended family networks, let alone his church and African neighborhoods ... gasp ... one or two queer folks are actually alive and real?... just sayin...

"The (original) Episcopal Diocese of Pittsburgh is appealing to the Commonwealth Court of PA seeking to overturn property disputes with the rump Diocese of Pittsburgh, arguing that they are the rightful owners. Attorneys representing the leaders of the diocese, including Bishop Robert Duncan, are appealing the decision of the Court of Common Pleas of Allegheny County that determined the rightful trustee of diocesan assets to be the new Episcopal Church Diocese of Pittsburgh led by Bishop Kenneth L. Price, Jr.
- David Virtue, of 'virtueonline' -

And this is the sort of statement that David Virtue, of the oxymoronically-titled 'virtue-on- line' website, is peddling - in direct opposition to his crony Archbishop Peter Akinola's statement that 'Lawsuits are Demonic'

Why, one wonders are people like David Virtue and 'Archbishop' Robert Duncan continuing to pretend that ACNA is innocent regarding the instigation of legal action in the U.S.A? Such patent dishonesty should warn loyal Episcopalians against the claims that 'virtueonline' represents what it proclaims, on it's web-site, to be "The Voice of Anglican Orthodoxy". Like the oddly-named 'Anglican Communion Institute' in North America, such claims are spurious. Anmy claim to represent authentic Anglicanism could never be claimed by either David Virtue or the A.C.I.