Sunday, 11 July 2010

some press comment on yesterday's debate

The Observer has an editorial, The church should always put humanity before unity. Sexual equality, rather than schism, should be the Archbishop of Canterbury’s foremost concern.

This article also deals with the Southwark episcopal appointment.

Cif belief has an article by Una Kroll Women bishops: what God would want.

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"Dr Williams has too often submerged his own liberal inclinations in what he sees as a higher duty to preserve institutional unity, Now, surely his priorities should change."

- Observer Editorial -

"Carpe Diem" seems to be the appropriate response to what the Observer observes as being necessary - in order to preserve the integrity of the Church of England, never mind the world-wide Communion.
Sadly, the original attempt to accommodate the anti-women clergy did institutionalize the side-stepping of women's ministry - by affording a dubious method of 'alternate oversight; by those oddities who came to be known as 'Flying Bishops'

Well, whatever they want to call this procedure now - in the event of women's episcopal ordination - it simply compunds the issue of a bishop's right to exercise episcope within their own diocese, a practice which would further institutionalize the second-class nature of women's ministry.

As a priest in another Province, which has one retired woman bishop, as well as an active one - Bishop Victoria Matthews, in the Diocese of Christchurch, New Zealand, (formerly runner-up to the Primacy of the Anglican Church of Canada), I frankly cannot see how the dear old C.of E. can possibly carry on without the ministry of women, as both priests and bishops.

For the C.of E. to continue on this path of accommodation of those who really believe a women is not fitted for the roles now occupied largely by men, seems out of date and out of touch with the modern world's understanding of inclusivity.
And, to seek to blend two opposite poles of theological discernment on this issue of gender preference into The Church seems pointless.

Posted by: Father Ron Smith on Monday, 12 July 2010 at 1:44am BST

"The church should always put humanity before unity."

...or rather, if the CofE puts "unity before humanity", they'll get NEITHER.

Posted by: JCF on Monday, 12 July 2010 at 3:50am BST

Guess I'm a Guardian sort, so the following resonates resoundingly with me:

Most of Britain has accepted that women can assume positions of authority and that homosexuality is a quite ordinary part of human experience. The explicit discrimination practised by the church is unacceptable in most non-religious settings and would be illegal if expressed by any other employer. There are, meanwhile, ample theological grounds for accepting that women are not created subordinate to men and that homosexuality is not hateful in the eyes of God. Dr Williams was determined not to go down in history as the Archbishop who split the church. He could have been remembered by future generations as a religious leader who stood unequivocally on the right side of a moral argument about sexual equality. Regrettably, that opportunity seems now to have passed.

Thanks Guardian.

Posted by: drdanfee on Monday, 12 July 2010 at 7:18pm BST
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