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Alan Wilson continues his series in The Guardian with The Book of Common Prayer, part 2: Wetting baby’s head. “Why do we baptise babies, who can’t possibly believe in God? Because Augustine was right about grace and original sin.”

Clifford Longley gave this Thought for the Day on BBC Radio 4 on the difference between the secular, the spiritual and the religious.

The Economist looks at Catholics in Britain in The fruits of adversity. “Bolstered by immigration and challenged by the economic downturn, the church is playing an ever more active role.”

Justin Lewis-Anthony (the 3 Minute Theologian) reflects on Greenbelt: 3 Minutes on Greenbelt.
So too does Giles Fraser in the Church Times: A spiritual detox for a City-dweller.

Savi Hensman writes at Ekklesia on Anglicans at cross-purposes.

Eric Priest writes in The Guardian that Stephen Hawking can’t use physics to answer why we’re here. “Modern belief in God is not about covering the gaps in our knowledge, but about answering different types of questions.”
And the Church Mouse explains why Hawking is not saying anything now that he didn’t say 20 years ago: Stephen Hawking and God – lazy reporters make up stuff.
James Dacey at the Institute of Physics blog has this: Talking Hawking and God.
Paul Davies writes for The Guardian about Stephen Hawking’s big bang gaps. “The laws that explain the universe’s birth are less comprehensive than Stephen Hawking suggests.”

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john
john
13 years ago

Clear and measured piece by Paul Davies (ex-Christian, I think), as one would expect. But I think paid-up Christians (or any kind of theists) have to be very careful how they respond to this kind of thing. Ruth Gledhill was terrible in debate with Dawkins: the ‘science explains the how, religion the why’ trope is useless, because the whole point of Hawking’s/Dawkins’ claims is that they remove the ‘why’, at least to a very considerable extent. Sacks, though much more sophisticated, was also below his best, because he used basically the same trope (and in fact his piece became self-contradictory).… Read more »

Leslie Fletcher
Leslie Fletcher
13 years ago

Hoping that it is not against site rules to re-post earlier offerings (though it may, of course, be merely boring!) can I re-iterate my comment from last time TA had a science and religion thread: “Three comments on the science and religion discussion: first, it seems to me that every scientific statement – “The planets move round the Sun in a manner determined by Newton’s Law of Universal Gravitation” for example – should be prefaced by the disclaimer “It appears to us now to be as though … ” or, in the case of my example “It appeared to people… Read more »

Erika Baker
Erika Baker
13 years ago

John,
Surely, as until we can prove with 100% certainty that there is no God, and until we can know God’s mind with the same 100% certainty, the only credible answers to How and to Why are “we don’t know”.
The only question worth answering is “what does faith mean for our lives, how does it change us, how does it compel us to live”.
If it “works”, if you can tell us by our fruits, then it’s worth having and worth emulating. If it doesn’t make a blind bit of difference, we might as well not bother.

peterpi
peterpi
13 years ago

There is a story, forgive me for not being more precise, that at the beginning of the 19th Century, a scientist was explaining to a monarch a new theory of how some aspect of the Universe functioned. After hearing the explanation, the monarch was impressed with the scientist’s knowledge, but enquired why the scientist did not reference God. The scientist answered “Because it was not necessary to do so.” Church Mouse argues that Hawkings hasn’t said anything new. That may be the case. But, if Hawkings is saying that science can do quite well without God, while that sounds arrogant… Read more »

john
john
13 years ago

Erika,

Thanks, as usual. Don’t worry about me. My concern here is how Christians defend themselves. It matters. The responses to Hawking have been weak, some damagingly so.

John.

Father Ron Smith
13 years ago

“As a scientist, you are continually questioning, rarely coming up with a definitive answer. The limitations of your own knowledge and expertise together with the beauty and mystery of life and the universe often fill you with a sense of profound humility. Thus, unequivocal assertions are not part of a genuine scientific quest.” – Eric Priest in The Guardian – In his comment on the latest from Stephen Hawking Eric Priest here states what ought to be obvious – that scientists are continually discovering that they don’t know everything about everything. Therefore, it is not too surprising that Stephen Hawking… Read more »

Rod Gillis
Rod Gillis
13 years ago

Wilson’s article on ( 1662) BCP baptism is interesting. Western Augustinianism indeed. One might add dreary western Augustinianism. I’m just finishing up a very compelling biography of A of H book titled simply “Augustine” by James J. O’Donnell. It a very critical ( in the good sense of that term) work. Check out it, or a review of the same.

Cheryl Va.
13 years ago

It’s too funny.

Jesus and Satan work within a universal reality and try to control it.

God works within a multiverse reality and limits Jesus and Satan to universal realities because they attempt to destroy that which does not flatter them.

God isn’t scared of multi-verses, they provide refuge from souls that would attempt to destroy them, simply because they are unflattering.

Jesus cannot control or have authority over that which he and his Christians seek to destroy. And if Jesus is prepared to destroy souls, then Jesus has to accept that God provides refuge.

In your eye “pal”.

Father Ron Smith
13 years ago

“God works within a multiverse reality and limits Jesus and Satan to universal realities because they attempt to destroy that which does not flatter them.

– Cheryl Va –

Cheryl, this is not the first of your posts that has me mystified. Precisely what are you saying here? I have enough of a problem dealing with theology as it is, without conundrums. Can you explain more fully?

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