Thursday, 17 January 2013

House of Laity meeting

David Pocklington of Law & Religion UK looks ahead to tomorrow’s meeting with these Questions for the House of Laity (and the Church), and suggests that members of the House of Laity might ponder the following:

  • What will be achieved by holding this debate?
  • Is this a responsible use of Church resources?
  • Has the issue been discussed in the parishes/deaneries/dioceses other than between members of the House of Laity? If not, on what basis are the views of these groups to be represented?
  • What message is the meeting likely send to those outside the Church (and to those within who were not consulted)?
  • How does this fit into the bigger picture of: a] the ordination of women into episcopate; and b] synodical governance?

But do read the whole article.

Posted by Peter Owen on Thursday, 17 January 2013 at 5:52pm GMT | TrackBack
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If only members of the house had asked these questions at the time of the original debate the evangelical movement might not now be in melt down

Posted by: Duncan on Thursday, 17 January 2013 at 7:29pm GMT

I think snow may well have the last word tomorrow now...

Posted by: Simon Butler on Thursday, 17 January 2013 at 10:22pm GMT

How does this fit into the bigger picture of synodical governance

Most of us realised that it was a train wreck years ago. Now the Synod are waking up to it.

Posted by: James on Thursday, 17 January 2013 at 10:32pm GMT

"Is this a responsible use of Church resources?"

One might think that the Church of England's reputation is beyond all price.

Posted by: Jeremy on Friday, 18 January 2013 at 3:37am GMT

"Responsible use of Church resources"? Let's not forget the time and years that went into getting the Church to this point only to have the vote scuppered by organised evangelicals who, in the main, never had any intention of voting for women as bishops, whatever the provision for opponents. They speak nice(ish) and play nasty.

I have no qualms about people strongly organising to do all they can to minimise the influence of the evangelicals.

Posted by: Conrad Henley-Calvert on Friday, 18 January 2013 at 10:42am GMT

I've just posted something on another thread about the need to support our assertions with evidence. So I'm going to try. How about this:-

in response to Conrad- I found this on VirtueOnline a couple of days ago,(it is from a much more substantial piece from May 19th 2012,

"No definitive statistics exist on conservative evangelicals in the Church of England because official church forms do not exist about such things; however, Church statistician Peter Brierley says that 40% of Church of England attendees currently go to evangelical churches - up from 26% in 1989."

If this is true (and the rest of the piece does something to maybe confirm it) and evangelicals are the single biggest section of the CofE- how do you envisage that "the influence of the evangelicals" could be minimised?

I am interested because it seems to me that it could be a losing battle unless you have some clever "strongly organising" ideas?


Posted by: johnny may on Saturday, 19 January 2013 at 1:09pm GMT
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