Friday, 31 May 2013

Bishop of Buckingham writes Letter to a Saloon Bar Moralist

Dr Alan Wilson, the Bishop of Buckingham, has written this Letter to a Saloon Bar Moralist.

Thank you for your letter. The more people apply their first principles to this question, the closer we will come to a way forward so thank you for trying. I am sure many people, especially those of a certain age will share it instinctively, driven by a primal feeling of disgust about gay sex.

What I am finding also, however, is that your views appear anything but natural to vast numbers of people who simply see gay people as people, not defined by their sexual practices. The opposite answer is as clear to them, as yours is to you and the minority of my correspondents your letter represents…

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Praise to the Lord for favoring us with Bishop Alan!

Posted by: Charlotte on Friday, 31 May 2013 at 7:09pm BST

In other news, George Carey is showing the intellectual incision and moral courage that so distinguished his time in Canterbury.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22727808

Posted by: Interested Observer on Friday, 31 May 2013 at 8:27pm BST

"In other news, George Carey is showing the intellectual incision and moral courage that so distinguished his time in Canterbury." ("Gay marriage plan 'paves way for polygamy', says Lord Carey")

So of the 15 countries and 15 U.S. jurisdictions that have enacted same-sex marriage, how many of them have subsequently enacted polygamous marriages? None, you say? I guess the slippery slope is not so slippery after all.

Posted by: dr.primrose on Saturday, 1 June 2013 at 1:32am BST

But what about your Bishop of Salisbury and the new article by Andrew Goddard? http://www.fulcrum-anglican.org.uk/page.cfm?ID=819 If a successful argument, all it does is box the Church of England into a corner less connected with society. http://pluralistspeaks.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/another-nail-in-anglican-coffin.html

Posted by: Pluralist on Saturday, 1 June 2013 at 3:28am BST

I hear you, Pluralist. Sometimes I think disestablishment would be absolutely the best thing that could happen for CoE. But it really seems quite complicated, the layers of practice that has developed through the centuries...

Posted by: Cynthia on Saturday, 1 June 2013 at 7:29am BST

Polygamy is of course practised in much of the Bible (when people trumpet the Bible as being their authority for being against same sex marriage) and polygamy is invariably an opposite sex phenomenon so it isn't even clear how one could lead to the other.

I think the greatest risk of polygamy returning is using the Bible as a basis for social policy. If you use the Bible as the basis of your moral reasoning it is only a matter of time before people will take it too far and ask for polygamy to be reintroduced.

Posted by: Craig Nelson on Saturday, 1 June 2013 at 10:36am BST

Craig,
I can see how one can lead to the other. The thinking is "the only acceptable sex is straight monogamous sex. Gay people are deliberately straying from that norm. If we give them what they want, then the next thing will be that straight men no longer see why they should be restricted to one woman, when that is so against their nature, and so there will be pressure to relax the rules for other groups too. And so we will all become polygamists and then the next group will insist that their desires for marrying their sheep must be allowed too..."

If you start out with the premise that gay people are immoral and only out for sexual pleasure the rest follows quite easily.
The polygamy argument says much more about the speaker's mind than it says about marriage equality.

Posted by: Erika Baker on Sunday, 2 June 2013 at 8:15am BST
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