Thursday, 19 December 2013

More coverage of the Jamaica conference story

Several British newspapers have picked up the story relating to Andrea Minichiello Williams:

Meanwhile, Lester Feder at Buzzfeed has published another article about Jamaica which gives some context to the earlier report: Why Some LGBT Youths In Jamaica Are Forced To Call A Sewer Home.

Update

The Times also has a report, Tom Daley was turned gay by death of his father, claims leading evangelical Christian, but as usual it only available to paid subscribers.

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It is very good that the true background and context showing the dire plight of lgbt people in Jamaica and especially for the youth. (See the Lester Feder at Buzzfeed article.)

It shows the far-reaching consequences of the interference of American and British churchmen - I cannot call them followers of Jesus.

The Churches role is appalling; and the Archbishop of Canterbury MUST speak out against these murderous attacks very soon, or all confidence in the integrity of the Anglican Communion will be lost for all time.

The photographs alone tell their tale of oppression,but nothing can disguise that these admirable young people, are exactly those beloved of Jesus.

Posted by: Revd Laurie Roberts on Thursday, 19 December 2013 at 5:23pm GMT

Have Mrs Williams and the conservative evangelical lobby really have nothing to say about this? Only Peter Ould seems to have commented and, as was remarked elsewhere, he seems to have been more concerned to shoot the messenger.

Mrs Williams will have learned the hard way that in this internet age you can't go halfway across the world and expect your words not to be reported. That her remarks have been reported with disapproval by the Daily Mail, a disapproval universally echoed by DM readers, speaks volumes about the change in attitude over the past few years, a change which Mrs Williams and her cohorts are fighting a losing battle against. Hopefully this episode will stiffen the arm of the bishops who have so far been more concerned to keep this lunatic fringe on board than to proclaim what is right and just.

Posted by: Richard Ashby on Thursday, 19 December 2013 at 6:39pm GMT

BUT ... also check this:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/getreligion/2013/12/the-independent-asks-why-report-when-you-can-reprint-pr/

Posted by: David Chislett on Thursday, 19 December 2013 at 6:51pm GMT

If every man became gay because his father died, then every man would become gay. Statistically speaking, it's my understanding that the vast, vast majority of men's fathers die. But perhaps Ms. Williams has access to better statistics than I do.

Posted by: dr.primrose on Thursday, 19 December 2013 at 10:40pm GMT

Getreligion.com is a right wing pressure group funded by Ahmanson that pretends to engage in objective media criticism concerning religion but in reality, its criticisms amount to complaining and nitpicking every story that doesn't support a right wing christian agenda.

Posted by: etseq on Friday, 20 December 2013 at 4:05am GMT

I found this on 'VirtueOnline' via Anglican Mainstream. Interestingly it concentrates on the Bishop of Chichester's failure to uphold 'Biblical truth' rather than say anything about what Mrs Williams is reported to have said. Does this mean that there is no dispute that she actually did say it? Looks like it.

http://www.virtueonline.org/portal/modules/news/article.php?storyid=18387#.UrQNV7mYbct

PS What is a 'homosexualist' lobby.

Posted by: Richard Ashby on Friday, 20 December 2013 at 9:32am GMT

I laughed so hard this morning when I read the Get Religion piece from George Conger.

George is a reporter who never lets the facts get in the way of a good piece of anti liberal polemic. Every edition of the video Anglican Unscripted he co presents is full of the very same poor journalism he points out here, and then some.

When George was reporting and supporting an attack on Rowan Williams being a druid by Peter Oulds brother he repeated false and misleading information from the original Ruth Gledhill story a decade before.

He even added further misleading information and attacked the Church of England minders for allowing Rowan to go ahead with the ceremony, when Rowan was still in fact Archbishop of Wales. Anyway I took the view that he was ignorant, misinformed and just lazy so I corrected the facts in the comments section on his website, my corrections were removed twice and then he closed comments. I leave the reader to make what you will of this.

It's breathtaking to hold up Peter's pieces on his blog as fair or even good reporting. Peter himself tells us he is being hugely generous to Mrs Williams. They are more in the style of the Blair rebuttal unit from the 90s and indeed the sort of stuff we read on Get Religion.

I am sorry Peter has made such a hash of it, but find George's views only support the idea that Peter is dodging the main issue ...... The loquacious Mrs Williams' silence speaks volumes.

Posted by: Martin Reynolds on Friday, 20 December 2013 at 9:49am GMT

Any remaining pretense that getreligion was about journalism just went out the window with the characterization of Scalia's views on buggery laws as "intellectually respectable." By whom? Not the late ++Michael Cantuar.

Posted by: Geoff on Friday, 20 December 2013 at 8:02pm GMT

Richard Ashby - Begin with HRC and go from there...

Posted by: Rob on Tuesday, 7 January 2014 at 9:56pm GMT
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