Sunday, 10 January 2016

Media coverage of the open letter to the archbishops

Updated Monday morning

There is a comprehensive set of links to media coverage of the letter over here.

Earlier items in previous article [scroll down]

BBC Sunday radio programme available here.
‘Last roll of the dice’ for the Anglican communion – item on Good Disagreement book from 18:25, item on Letter from 29:16

Also a short video report by Caroline Wyatt is here: Church ‘should repent’ over treatment of gay Anglicans

And a BBC World Service extended news report [starts about 5 minutes in] including comments from Bishop of Leeds Nick Baines, retired Bishop Michael Nazir-Ali, and Jayne Ozanne

Guardian Harriet Sherwood Senior Anglicans call for repentance over sexual discrimination

Telegraph Patrick Foster Church must repent for ‘treating gays like second-class citizens’

Michael Sadgrove Gay Anglicans and the Primates’ Meeting: the open letter

Brother Ivo Why I signed the Letter to the Archbishops

Posted by Simon Sarmiento on Sunday, 10 January 2016 at 5:34pm GMT | TrackBack
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Re Brother Ivo's article, where he writes, "Dr Martin Luther King Jnr spoke of the. 'paralysis of analysis' and sometimes the pressing needs of the times requires us to unite behind a less than perfect proposition."

I was cheered to be reminded of Dr. King's use of the phrase, paralysis of analysis. It fits the occasion. King also talked about what he called the "myth of time", that things will change if we just wait a hundred years or more. That seems to fit the occasion at hand as well.

I signed the letter, not because I find it a less than perfect instrument. I signed it because it allows me an opportunity, perhaps a very marginal one, to speak some truth to power in what is something an "Anglican curia", a concept that is at odds with the finer, though often messy, traditions of our polity.

The letter represents the kind of thing I would want to say on the floor of a synod dealing with our present crisis.

I'm grateful for the initiative of the authors of the letter, and for those still in harness, I'm grateful for their courage.

Posted by: Rod Gillis on Sunday, 10 January 2016 at 8:14pm GMT

The Bishop of Rochester disagrees saying that the Bible and 2,000 years of Christian teaching speaks against gay sex. Not that the letter mentions gay sex...

Posted by: Kate on Sunday, 10 January 2016 at 10:20pm GMT

"Not that the letter mentions gay sex..."

That's my biggest problem with it, Kate. The elephant in the room is the belief that homosexuality is inherently sinful. Until that changes, discrimination will continue, and worse, be masked by platitudes about repentance. Thing will appear to've improved when they haven't. In many ways, this insidious position's worse than open prejudice.

Welby's already expressed repentance for the church's past treatment of gay people, but, likely 'cause he's not junked the belief that homosexuality's a "salvation issue," fails to see that there's anything wrong with the church's current treatment. For him and so many others, "homophobia" is defined narrowly as violence and abuse, with the application of "traditional teaching" exempt.

Evangelicals are always careful to be specific about homosexuality, 'cause they recognize that this is what it all hinges on. Far too many in the affirming camp fudge the issue to build unity and avoid confrontation. I'd rather lose the signature of the equal marriage opposing "Brother Ivo," who talks of the "tactics" of the "LGBTI agenda," than duck confronting the root cause of the thing condemned. In a heartbeat.

Posted by: James Byron on Monday, 11 January 2016 at 5:15am GMT

Kate:Michael Nazir-Ali is the former Bishop of Rochester, not the current one -he resigned a few years ago, partly because he didn't like the way the church seemed to be going on issues like this. It is a little frustrating that the media give him such a prominent platform.

Posted by: Anne on Monday, 11 January 2016 at 6:58am GMT

For clarity, that's the *former* Bishop of Rochester.

Posted by: Pete Broadbent on Monday, 11 January 2016 at 7:51am GMT

"The Bishop of Rochester disagrees saying that the Bible and 2,000 years of Christian teaching speaks against gay sex"

And the Bible condemns female ordination and headship.....1950 years of Christian teaching meant nothing to him ( he ordained dozens of women and appointed the first female Archdeacon in the CofE) and he was also liberal on divorce and remarriage.

So you see you can be contrary with the strictures of St Paul...and Bishop Nazir Ali is a prime example.

Posted by: robert ian wiilliams on Tuesday, 12 January 2016 at 5:45pm GMT
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