Comments: St Albans Pilgrimage 2005

Anyone know whether the establishment of the new "Society of Catholic Priests" mean that "Affirming Catholicism" (with it's explicitly liberal stance on homosexuality) is on it's way out ?

ACs seem to have unrepresentatively dominated the upper echelons of western Anglicanism for some time. So it'd be nice to think that, if AC is on the way out, they might let other groups within Anglicanism be represented more proportionately above the level of parish priest !

Posted by Dave at Monday, 16 May 2005 at 11:36pm BST

I dont know whether that is true or untrue - any stats?

Posted by Christopher Shell at Tuesday, 17 May 2005 at 10:02am BST

SCP was established in 1994, so the premise that it is "new" is false.

Posted by Simon Sarmiento at Tuesday, 17 May 2005 at 10:13am BST

Dave asked:
"Anyone know whether the establishment of the new "Society of Catholic Priests" mean that "Affirming Catholicism" (with it's explicitly liberal stance on homosexuality) is on it's way out ? "

Sorry, but I don't understand this question. I'm not aware of any evidence for a difference of view between the SCP and "Affirming Catholicism", both of which appear to this unsympathetic observer to combine a taste for pretty clothes and nice smells with sympathy for liberal protestant innovations such as the purported ordination of women.

Posted by Alan Harrison at Tuesday, 17 May 2005 at 12:48pm BST

That-away to the Tiber, Alan. Vaya con Dios!

Posted by J. C. Fisher at Friday, 20 May 2005 at 1:40am BST

Doohh!! you're right Simon! "The Society of Catholic Priests was founded [1994] by a group of priests from the Southwark Diocese who felt that they could no longer remain within the existing fraternal organisations for priests."

I love their first statement for membership, demanding change by making what sounds like a description of fact: "we belong to the one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church ordaining men and women to serve as deacons, priests and bishops in the Church of God".

Posted by Dave at Saturday, 21 May 2005 at 9:45am BST

Regarding "Affirming Catholics" unrepresentatively dominating the Anglican heirachy, unfortunately I don't have may statistics. The AF site doesn't state membership anymore but I understand there were about 25 UK diocesan bishops last anyone heard. Given that four of the CofE'S five mega-churches (over 1000 is a lot in the UK) are evangelical, and that the General Synod evangelical group is just over 50%, there is a sudden dearth of evagelicals in the House of Bishops (I can think of about 10 but I wouldn't claim to be an authority). Maybe Simon will share some better numbers ?

When you get to the international level things become much clearer. Here are a few AFs you might have heard of: ABp Rowan Williams, pBp Frank Griswold, ABp Andrew Hutchinson and ABp Peter Carnley!

Posted by Dave at Saturday, 21 May 2005 at 10:54am BST
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