Comments: British press views of Roman Catholic statement

I never thought that I should find a reason to write this: - What an excellent leader the Guardian has produced!

Posted by Peter at Thursday, 1 December 2005 at 10:01am GMT

Peter wrote: "I never thought that I should find a reason to write this: - What an excellent leader the Guardian has produced!"

Guardian readers don't seem to agree: see their letter's in today's paper at
http://www.guardian.co.uk/letters/story/0,3604,1654474,00.html

Posted by badman at Thursday, 1 December 2005 at 4:24pm GMT

"A curious thing, in all this, is that lesbians really do not get much of a mention (apart from the four lesbian rabbis to whom Rabbi Rich lays claim); it is all very Queen Victoria. When the Anglican church frets over gay vicars, it is really men and men's bits it is worrying about. What about all those gay nuns and gay lady vicars out there? People just tend to 'fret' less about what women get up to, says Reynolds."

An interesting comment by Emily Wilson in The Guardian.

Posted by John Henry at Thursday, 1 December 2005 at 7:19pm GMT

I thought it was twaddle - the responses in today's letters column made a lot more sense!

Posted by Merseymike at Thursday, 1 December 2005 at 8:27pm GMT

Again -- have to agree with Merseymike -- I thought the Guardian leader must have been sneaked in from some other paper!

Ditto the responses re: badman

John Henry -- the secret is that the emotion laden controversy is not really about same sex intimacy -- it is about preserving patriarchy

Posted by Prior Aelred at Friday, 2 December 2005 at 1:18am GMT

Four irritated voices on the leading left-wing national paper, against the "socialist-elite" leader article. The wind has changed quite a bit, and the revisionists on TA are not happy, not happy at all!

Posted by Peter at Friday, 2 December 2005 at 3:08pm GMT

"John Henry -- the secret is that the emotion laden controversy is not really about same sex intimacy -- it is about preserving patriarchy."

Good point, Prior Aelred .

Was the dissolution of the monasteries during the 1530s of the Reformation Era also about preserving "patriarchy"? It is significant that the reforming European states also enacted the first "anti-sodomy legislation" during that time.
Nuns in convents had access to education. Abbesses wore mitres as symbols of their authority and equality. In reformed states nuns were forced to marry former monks in order to survive. Hateful propaganda also associated homosexuality with monasticism. Geneva, under Jean (John) Calvin, rigorously enforced the new anti-sodomy laws.

There is so much 16th century Calvinism in ++Akinola and his ilk!

Posted by John Henry at Friday, 2 December 2005 at 5:18pm GMT
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