Comments: Pittsburgh: diocese prepares for annual convention

Many, many thanks and prayers of support to PEP folks for their clarity and unwavering commitment to pledging big tent Anglicanism in the face of the current realignment campaign. What a fine example to all of the rest of us they live. Not least have they born good witness by filing suit in court, thus helping to get behind the scrims of realignment spin doctoring to reveal some people and some facts and some true sequences of events.

I have also greatly enjoyed the clear analysis of the presuppositional-categorical-definitional rhetoric which seems nowadays to comprise such a repeated core of realignment believer claims. And all because so many allegedly vile and wayward target people who are beneath the high morality of realignment folks must be prevented from mattering, and/or from being able to get on with their best available lives under varying circumstances - as Anglican/Episcopalian believers.

Wow. If Canterbury falls for this, it will surely be riding the realignment tiger, and realignment will be coming to a UK parish, balking at the stubborn ways and means of CoE establishment.

Posted by drdanfee at Wednesday, 12 September 2007 at 8:27pm BST

Gee

I wish there were weblogs like Lionel Deimel’s in every dioceses where certain parishes growth was being "stunted" because their theology was in error, or their ministers and leaders removed with methods that perturb parishioners, or recruitment of replacement "constricted" to a limited few or none at all.

It would be lovely to see weblogs like this popping up with this kind of corroborating evidence. When you start to see the same pattern happening over and over again, you start to see a collective strategy. Then the church has a chance to contemplate whether this is healthy and what to do about it.

One of the things that Daniel mentioned that concerned me is how easy it is to appoint a small group of 8 souls who then have huge powers with little or no accountability. Some of what is going on looks like an attempt to constitutionalise a blank cheque. They would only be doing this if they intended to create a culture where no other faction ever has any likelihood of selecting those 8 key players. That is a really, really scary concept. Cults en masse?

Posted by Cheryl Clough at Thursday, 13 September 2007 at 8:09am BST

Canon Hays (Pitts) regarding the proposed realignment of the diocese out from under TEC states -

"It has not been done [before], that's true. The National church has said it is null and void what we have said [already]about our accession clause. That again I would say is a matter of opinion."

Duncan is trying to sell the idea that dioceses have "a right to rescind" accession. The right is predicated on the notion of TEC being not so much a church but a confederation of dioceses, who can opt in or out at will.

Canon Hays admits that such a position has never been tried before, and covers over its weaknesses by calling whether it is valid "a matter of opinion."

How rude will the awakening be when those in the diocese learn just who far fetched Duncan's opinion is, and how far down the primrose path they have been led on his folly?

Posted by C.B. at Thursday, 13 September 2007 at 3:45pm BST

There is much to be gleaned from Duncan's treatment of moderates and liberals in his diocese.

I am reluctant to get into the persecution game, but it seems that most of the outrageous persecutions claimed without evidence by the "conservatives" can be proven in Pittsburgh with the roles reversed.

Interesting enough, though, the liberals are not demanding alternative episcopal oversight or trying to leave their diocese. They merely want their authoritarian bishop held accountable.

Posted by Malcolm+ at Thursday, 13 September 2007 at 7:23pm BST
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