Comments: opinions after Christmas

There was a discussion on this morning's today programme between Giles Fraser and Anne Atkins - "Has Xmas become a left wing festival?"

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happy new year thinking anglicans

Posted by Rhys Morgan at Saturday, 29 December 2007 at 4:40pm GMT

Atkins ws ridiculous. Can't she ever shut up and listen to another ?


I had no idea christmas was 'over'.

Posted by L Roberts at Saturday, 29 December 2007 at 11:56pm GMT

"Christmas was downgraded and stripped of its threatening content a long time ago."

Indeed. While the Incarnational aspects of the Nativity scene, especially those that include a 'cacagenar' are important, I suspect the decline began with St. Francis's promotion of such things. We have been duped into believing that what we are celebrating is the birth of a baby. Sure, not just any baby, but still, the fact that this is the entrance into Creation by the Creator Himself, the beginning of at-one-ment, the beginning of His becoming "as we are so that we may becoime as He is" is lost. The removal of John 1 as the Gospel of the main Mass of Christmas is another blow. We only get to hear of the Word made Flesh once every three years now. I have no doubt that this is one of the leading forces driving the idea so prevalent in the West that redemption means little more than getting away with crime. In the manger we look at God Who chose to become one of us, the Creator of all become one of the most helpless and weak of His Creation, reuniting us with himself. But all we see is some sort of hero-baby. I've heard it said the Orthodox are "too much God, not enough carpenter", but I think at Christmas we become way too much carpenter, not nearly enough God.

Posted by Ford Elms at Friday, 4 January 2008 at 4:45pm GMT
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