Comments: opinions after Epiphany

I agree with the Ekklesia argument by saying that the secular and religious are false opposites: the secular gives space to the religious to make a commentary. If the religious can expand outwards, by networks building institutions, then they will help towards building a civil society. The comments of Nazir-Ali won't do this, which have amounted to special pleading and scaremongering.

Posted by Pluralist at Saturday, 12 January 2008 at 4:44pm GMT

Giles Fraser is right, good religion is found in reality not in ivory towers. Each and every religion shines at its best when it is solving problems, not when it is covering itself in violence and posturings. Examples of God's contempt for disconnected scribes can be found at Isaiah 59:4-10, Mark 12:38-40, Isaiah 29:11-24 & 30:1-3 & 32, Jeremiah 18:9-20 or Hosea 11:1-7

There is a tendency to refer to morality, but that often then gets confused with sexuality. I find it more useful to refer to righteousness which does not have sexual connotations. God creates all things thus each and every individual is a child of God. God is a just and treats souls reasonably. While not all souls will end up in an exclusively utopian Christian heaven, all souls are treated fairly and compassionately and appropriately placed.

There were a few important reasons for the Anglican Communion debates. Firstly, to expose the nastiness and selfishness of some players. Secondly, in articulating the different theological positions and having to justify them in terms of the bible, we provided a window and thus an opportunity for others to contemplate their own blind spots and irrational belligerences. Thirdly, and most importantly, this planet has finite resources and we are going to hit the wall unless we do some deep fundamental rethinks. We helped all humanity (including businesses, visionaries, and governments) to understand that some leaders have bunkered mentalities and are doing mental hyperboles to avoid dealing with harsh realities.

We need souls who can think like Joseph. We need to continue to feed people - where can we grow food, how can we make what we have last longer, where can we make savings, what can we store up? What can people at the local level do? How can we cooperate with each other to make everything last longer? How do we free up people who can find new resources and new energy sources? How do we stop rioting and pillaging?

Faith leaders will play a crucial role in keeping societies stable, including affirming governments, individuals and organisations that are working on finding new solutions and extending the life of the resources we still have. We need theologies that will keep this biosphere viable and help us reach to the stars to find new homes and bring back resources to keep Gaia a living entity.

Posted by Cheryl Va. Clough at Saturday, 12 January 2008 at 8:13pm GMT
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