Comments: Virginia court ruling: constructive comment

"this decision illustrates why secular litigation was a spectacularly bad idea for all the parties to this dispute"

IF ONLY the CANAites hadn't initiated the litigation!

Posted by JCF at Thursday, 10 April 2008 at 6:22pm BST

Dale Rye's take on the goings on in Anglican Land is always noteworthy and enlightening, especially his throughtful analysis of the wider legal and constitutional implications of the VA district court's decision.

Posted by John Henry at Thursday, 10 April 2008 at 7:08pm BST

I did take the opportunity to read the entire article at Covenant and, what confused me slightly is Rye's assertion that the trajectory in the US if toward a "neutral principles" approach (Wolf v. Jones) rather than the "hierarchical preference" approach (Watson v. Jones) approach. My questioning is on the basis of the recent appellate decision in the St. James Newport case. Here the court (I think its 4th District) went back to Watson v. Jones vs. the St. Luke's (3rd District) decision favoring "neutral principles" as more proper to California. I suspect that what the CA Supreme Court does on appeal will be most influential.

Posted by EPfizH at Thursday, 10 April 2008 at 7:11pm BST

"IF ONLY the CANAites hadn't initiated the litigation!"

I beg you pardon !?

JCF, it actually is the exact opposite. TEC and the Diocese put a stop to brotherly negotiations with these congregations and went to the Courts.

Posted by Ricardo Tucas at Friday, 11 April 2008 at 4:02pm BST

Concerning who sued whom first, it is simply undisputed that the CANA congregations began filing their lawsuits before the diocese or the national church filed their counter-pleadings. The circuit court sets forth the procedural history of this case on page 40 of its decision as follows:


In December of 2006 through January of 2007, eight of the CANA Congregations filed a "Petition for Approval of Report of Congregational Determination Pursuant to Va. Code section 57-9" with various circuit courts in Virginia. These were Truro Church, Church of the Apostles, and Church of the Epiphany, which filed their petitions in the Fairfax County Circuit Court; The Church at the Falls-the Falls Church, which filed its petition in the Circuit Court of Arlington County; St. Paul's Church and St. Margaret's Church, which filed their petitions in the Circuit Court of Prince William County; St. Stephen's Church, which filed its petition in the Circuit Court of Northumberland County; and The Church of Our Saviour at Oatlands, which filed its petition in the Circuit Court of Loudoun County.

Beginning on January 31, 2007, the Diocese filed complaints against each of the eight CANA Congregations that had filed 57-9 petitions, as well as complaints against three other members of the CANA Congregations: Potomac Falls Church, Christ the Redeemer Church, and Church of the Word.


You can read the full decision at .

Posted by dr.primrose at Saturday, 12 April 2008 at 1:12am BST

I will be very surprised if the Judge rules the law constitutional. It appears to me, in fact, that the first decision is a setup to show exactly why the law is unconstitutional: it forces a secular court to make decisions on the internal governance of a church -- in this case, whether it has "divided" or not. The state cannot tell the church how to run its business, and if TEC says it has not divided, it is not up to the state to say that it has.

Thank you, Dr. Primrose, for the truth in the face of the perpetual lie that CANA did not initiate recourse to the civil courts in this matter.

Posted by Tobias Haller at Monday, 14 April 2008 at 12:22am BST

Informing the court of the results of the vote to separate from the diocese of Virginia as outlined in the state statute 57-9 is NOT a lawsuit. You sacrifice credibility by repeating this nonsense.

Posted by robroy at Tuesday, 22 April 2008 at 9:15pm BST
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