Comments: Tom Wright interviewed in New Statesman

Oh geez. That article is so uninformed it's actually painful to read...

Posted by Imogen at Thursday, 10 April 2008 at 1:33pm BST

"Here he declares war on militant atheists and liberals"

Can't wait to hear from the usual gang of thugs about how non-violent conservatives are.

Posted by John at Thursday, 10 April 2008 at 2:33pm BST

Well dear Anglican neighbors, take from we who managed to be found by another Jesus who surprisingly existed outside of the going vigorous conservative frames in the USA, the witness that phenoms like the USA Bible Belt and the Religious Right are all too real.

Many USA conservative evangelical believers love you so much they are quite willing to tilt any number of discussions in favor of their own closed presuppositions, not to mention tilting any number of laws or policies or institutional regulations in favor of their exclusive truths, let alone force you in subtle and not so subtle ways to conform - all for your own heavenly, and as it just happens, for their earthly goods.

So Go GAFCON, militant USA-type campaigning (with multiple historical and cultural roots in old-fashioned USA whites only stuff, a counter-reform movement responding to civil rights for citizens who were people of color, and to womens' rights movements among other triggers?) will make every effort to collapse and destroy all the global Anglican spaces wherein so many of the rest of us exist and pray in common so alternatively across all manner of believer diversities - hence the effort to define Big Tent Lambeth invitations as dubious and immoral?

Ironic, that just as this sort of religious rightwing stuff may be waning somewhat in USA politics, it comes on so big on the global Anglican scene. I can pray in common with Bishop Tom, but I cannot by any means allow his views to distract me from alternatively following Jesus of Nazareth in constant pilgrimage and a whole big modern tool kit of best practices discernment.

Posted by drdanfee at Thursday, 10 April 2008 at 3:50pm BST

Of course you have to remember that for many conservative evangelicals Tom Wright is a liberal because he supports the ordination of women, including as bishops, and is deemed 'unsound' on justification by faith.

Posted by Frozenchristian at Thursday, 10 April 2008 at 4:38pm BST

All thrust and aggression, purposeful, attacking, enemies, tough guy, sort them out, heavyweight. It's like how they used to parody Thatcher and build her image at the same time. His Easter sermon was, in places, little less than stupid, embarrassing, ignorant, foolish...

Posted by Pluralist at Thursday, 10 April 2008 at 5:28pm BST

"Of course you have to remember that for many conservative evangelicals Tom Wright is a liberal because he supports the ordination of women, including as bishops, and is deemed 'unsound' on justification by faith." - Frozenchristian, 10 April 2008, 4:38pm.

Spot on. Remember also that +Tom Wright opposed George W.'s preemptive war against Iraq. After all, in the view of the U.S. Christian Right, the U.S. President was the 21st cent. crusader to share, with Muslims, America's gift of democracy (and Christianity).

Posted by John Henry at Thursday, 10 April 2008 at 7:04pm BST

Ick. In +Tom Wright, I'm actually reminded of (his Iraq War opponent) George W. Bush.

Both of them make a *virtue of certainty*---instead of seeing it as the calling-card of that chief of the Mortal Sins, PRIDE.

Lord have mercy!

Posted by JCF at Friday, 11 April 2008 at 5:50am BST

“Remember also that +Tom Wright opposed George W.'s preemptive war against Iraq”

I don’t know why you all call it “against Iraq”? when it is a war IN Iraq and doesn’t seem to be “against” anything…

The Iraqi regime under Saddam Hussein was a friendly one, one of the few you had; a long time collaborator and henchman. The bombings of The New York World Trade Centre was not done by mainstream Muslim Iraqis, but Saudis and other sectarians.

It had nothing to do with Taliban Afghanistan, the nebulous Al Qaida wasn’t even present…

The meaning of the word “preemptive” actually means that the cause wasn’t there at the time…

The official casus belli (WMD) remains a lie, as you all know, and the insuccess of it all suggest there wasn’t a rational cause in the first place.

I would suggest the 10 Commandment: GREED (Halliburton ;=)

Posted by Göran Koch-Swahne at Friday, 11 April 2008 at 6:39am BST

What the article on Bp Wright refers to as "kindly muddle" may have been something subtler -- a sense of the changing texture of adult Christian faith.

Posted by Spirit of Vatican II at Friday, 11 April 2008 at 8:08am BST

Stephen Bates's resurrection of the loaded term 'nonconformist' is a pity - since this term has 2 internal defects: (1) it doesn't answer the question 'conforming to *what*, exactly?' - presumably to the position of those in power or in the 'establishment', as though that criterion were relevant to truth; (2) it is perfectly possible that those who don't simply go with the established position thereby show -on average- a greater capacity to think for themselves.

Posted by Christopher Shell at Saturday, 12 April 2008 at 9:16am BST

First Tom "NT" Wright recommends Dr Cameron’s flawed labours to the English House of Bishops (“Issues”) as a “Scholar”, now he is a “Statesman”???

Posted by Göran Koch-Swahne at Monday, 14 April 2008 at 6:20am BST

Hilarious - it shows so clearly why the Church has nothing left to offer me.

I'm off to see Richard Dawkins speak in the near future.

Posted by Merseymike at Monday, 14 April 2008 at 11:02am BST
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