Comments: Fort Worth prepares

"We are loyal to the doctrine, worship, and discipline of the Episcopal Church USA. We are nurtured by Scripture, Tradition, and Reason - the three-legged stool of traditional Anglicanism. We are Episcopalians striving for a middle way - a via media - of diversity and tolerance in the Diocese of Fort Worth."

This declaration, on the web-site of Fort Worth Via Media, is a heartening sign to those of us in other parts of the Communion of Fort Worth's *remaining faithful* Episcopalians' intention to weather the present storm of division within TEC and the Canadian A.C. May God Bless you!

Also, the message from the Steering Committee of Noerth Texas Episcopalians - affirming their fealty to traditional Anglicanism - encourages the rest of us that mainline Anglicans in North America are determined to follow the inclusive call of the Gospel in these uncertain times.

May God Bless you all as you struggle to maintain the integrity of our Anglican heritage. Please be assured of our constant prayers on your behalf.

Posted by Father Ron Smith at Wednesday, 12 November 2008 at 9:28pm GMT

TEC established the Diocese of Fort Worth to provide a place for anti-women's ordination sentiment. This shows what happens, when you adopt such a tactic....it only delays the evil day. This is a warning to the C of E, not to create any diocesan structures for the anti- women bishops crowd.

Furthermore Bishop Iker has just given ten reasons why to realign with Souhern cone. He asserts TEC are innovators and don't believe the Bible. Yet he conveniently forgets to mention how Fort Worth
has women deacons,divorce and re-marriage and contraception is not even an issue.

Furthermore the Anglicanism he holds to is such advanced Anglo-Catholicism, that it has departed from the Anglican mainstream years ago. How many Anglican cathedrals in England have a Rosary group?

He of course makes no mention that Southern Cone has allowed the licensing and ordination of women priests in its Canadian and Pittsburgh venture and that he signed up to GAFCON, with a Secretary who allows women deacons to celebrate Holy Communion. He doesn't tell his flock that the new Anglican church of North America will be compromised on women's ordination.

Not to mention that he is now in communion with a denomination like the Church of England in South Africa which has lay presidency!

One suddenly hears the words kettle and pot!

Posted by Robert Ian williams at Thursday, 13 November 2008 at 6:28am GMT

"TEC established the Diocese of Fort Worth to provide a place for anti-women's ordination sentiment."

Um, no. Episcopalians in Fort Worth (which is where I am from) asked the Episcopal Church to establish a separate diocese from Dallas because Fort Worth was growing from a rather sleepy little place into a much larger city.

Posted by BillyD at Thursday, 13 November 2008 at 12:03pm GMT

Gee Ft W, vote to leave already. You have been threatening it for years, talking about it from every which angle, and drumming up all sorts of mean talk about all the hot button people whom you preach justifies your leaving.

And, as Ft W grew from a sleepy town to a big deal, it also prized itself on holding certain grim traditional views of women, embedded in a new fangled revival of Anglo-Catholic manners which can entertain the heavenly assumption of virgin Mary (or perhaps the solemn invocatin of any number of other saints?) while remaining impervious to that awful, awful, nasty innovation of womens ordination.

I agree, Ft W is a warning sign to CoE - insofar as typical big tent Anglican leeway given to such conservative believers now consistently gets used to demean and assault other Anglicans not necessarily in agreement with them. As Ft W grew, its big tent became conformed and small indeed.

If or when the rest of us respond to such changes in Anglican big tents, we are loudly accused of unfairly turning up the heat in the conversations across Anglican differences. If Conformity and Realignment were not constantly the deadly new weaponized Catch-22 of our century, would the rest of us bother with it at all? If Iker and Company were not actively trying to burn down all Anglican big tents globally, would Iker and Company matter much?

Posted by drdanfee at Thursday, 13 November 2008 at 8:24pm GMT

"How many Anglican cathedrals in England have a Rosary group?" - Robert Ian Williams -

I would ask RIW, a novice Roman Catholic much given to commenting on the lack of catholicity in the Anglican Communion: "How many Roman Catholic churches in Wales have a Rosary Group?"

And what does this have to do with the price of gefilte-fish on Fridays?

Posted by Father Ron Smith at Thursday, 13 November 2008 at 9:30pm GMT

"TEC established the Diocese of Fort Worth to provide a place for anti-women's ordination sentiment. This shows what happens, when you adopt such a tactic....it only delays the evil day. This is a warning to the C of E, not to create any diocesan structures for the anti- women bishops crowd."

I swear, RIW: not only do I have NO idea where you're coming from w/ this post, but I can't help but wonder whether YOU do, either [Is it satire? Is the "evil day" you speak of, the end of anti-WO sanctuaries (in your terms), or the end of the male-only priesthood---would it were the latter! ;-/]

The bottomline: TEC *will* continue in Fort Worth, as TEC is continuing in San Joaquin and Pittsburgh. God grant us all Your reconciliation, in Your time...

Posted by JCF at Friday, 14 November 2008 at 5:53am GMT

Let's avoid personal remarks here, please, and stick to comments on Fort Worth.

Posted by Simon Sarmiento at Friday, 14 November 2008 at 9:32am GMT
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