Comments: The CofE and the BNP

It is sad to still see "freezing out" strategies being used by Anglican leaders. You would have thought after all the debacle in the last few years about inappropriate organisational politics that they would have learnt their lesson.

Still, it is heartening to see that other denominations are demonstrating an understanding that silence is seen as condonement. Well done for speaking out.

As for those who think that silence makes them "innocent". Contemplate this. God judges not just what we do (and are known to do) but also what we omit (or do but it is not "known"). Sophistry and deceit do not work for God, and bring shame for Jesus for allowing such conduct e.g. aiding and abetting pedophiles and tyrants.

Better to admit to love, and affirm why you are affirming the "unloved", than fail to love and later purport that "you would have, if only been told to do so". The latter is sociopathic thinking, which is why both Esau and Cain were reduced in their standing before God. God does not like, aid or abet either sociopaths or tyrants.

Ezekiel 9:9-10 The sin of the priests are "...exceedingly great; the land is full of bloodshed and the city is full of injustice. They say, ‘The LORD has forsaken the land; the LORD does not see.’ So I will not look on them with pity or spare them, but I will bring down on their own heads what they have done.” If Jesus or his priests do not disassociate themselves from violence and hate mongering, then Jesus and his priests will be dealt with accordingly. If Satan was judged for his tyranny and violence, so too Jesus whose own priests and followers have done worse.

Ezekiel 18, each will be judged according to their own conduct and sins. Jesus will not be held accountable for Satan's sins, nor Satan for Jesus'. The book of Revelation promises 1000 years of peace, the two of them had better work out how to cohabitat, or neither of them will be planetary guardians. This planet will be extinct and neither will be given another. But if they give 1000 years of peace, then both will be given a second chance, based on their own merits and conduct (and not the other - no more scapegoating).

Posted by Cheryl Va. at Saturday, 4 April 2009 at 8:42pm BST

You're right Cheryl that "freezing out" doesn't work. The realizing of that is one of the promising aspects of the Obama presidency.

And paradoxically as it might seem, silence is often the same as condonement without words.

The anti Gay policies prevalent in the Province of the West Indies might be an example of this...

Posted by Göran Koch-Swahne at Sunday, 5 April 2009 at 3:39am BST

It is disappointing that Archbishop Sentamu's Communications Director has chosen to attack Ekklesia (of which I am an associate, and for which I sometimes write), rather than join in debating the issues. It is odd to accuse Ekklesia of 'question[ing] the Archbishop of York’s commitment to racism' when Jonathan Bartley's clearly states that 'no one would seriously question the commitment of the Church of England, or the Archbishop of York, to combating racism', and in general Revd Arora's remarks seem to miss the point.

In what circumstances should Christians avoid challenging far-right parties to avoid drawing attention to their claims, and how effective is this strategy? What are the pros and cons of trying to create or preserve a 'Christian Britain'? It would be useful to promote discussion on such important matters, especially at a time when racist extremists are seeking to win greater support.

Posted by Savi Hensman at Sunday, 5 April 2009 at 10:48pm BST

It might be a little easier to take John Sentamu's views on racism more seriously if he had not begun a recent talk on Englishness by slagging off (presumably "in jest") the Scots, the Welsh and the Irish.

Still, good to hear his press officer speaking out against self promotion.

Posted by Kelvin Holdsworth at Monday, 6 April 2009 at 8:57am BST
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