Comments: North American news roundup

"The Episcopal Parish held a single liturgy (for Palm Sunday) at Grace Church, attended by an overflow crowdod about 600. more than twice its normal weekly attendance" - The Gazette, C.S. -

Sounds like a wonderful celebration of the beginning of Holy week for the reconstituted parish of Colorado Springs, TEC. The triumph, like that of Jesus on his ride into Jerusalem, was not unmixed with suffering. BUT, we all know that Resurrection is to follow on Easter Day.

May God richly bless this newly assembled congregation of The Episcopal Church in Colorado Spings. We share your joy at this restoration.

Posted by Father Ron Smith at Tuesday, 7 April 2009 at 5:13am BST

reality has a progressive bias, me thinks.

Posted by Leonel at Tuesday, 7 April 2009 at 11:48am BST

Thinking Anglicans still doesn't seem to have picked up the conversation regarding the bishop-elect of Northern Michigan, a conversation that has brought together an interesting mix of liberal, moderate, and conservative on matters of core/creedal doctrine.

Posted by Christopher at Tuesday, 7 April 2009 at 4:43pm BST

I know (personally) of one parish that voted to leave TEC and everything connected to it (including the building). There was no fight, no litigation, no argument. The rector willingly forfeited his salary, rectory, and pension without dispute.

As a way of thanking this rector for his integrity the bishop ordered clergy in the diocese to send dozens of people to the vacated parish for several weeks after the rector's final Sunday. Then he invited the news media in so they could witness the "minimal effect" of the exodus of the rector and his "small minority of supporters". In fact, the bishop pointed out, "the numbers at St. Paul's have never been better!" ...and for an entire 3 weeks the bishop was right. hmmm...

Posted by Joe at Tuesday, 7 April 2009 at 8:58pm BST

Note how in the ACNA canons divorce and the right to re-marriage for laity and clergy depend on the subjective opinion of the clergy! the same policy as liberal TEC.

Also see how the "high Church" have had a victory by stopping recognition of non episcopally ordained clergy. A Roman Catholic priest can join ACNA but a baptist minister has to be re-ordained. This is a point to upset the evangelicals with.

Posted by Robert Ian Williams at Tuesday, 7 April 2009 at 11:05pm BST

Gotta love all that hearsay, Joe.

Posted by Lapinbizarre at Tuesday, 7 April 2009 at 11:59pm BST

"A Roman Catholic priest can join ACNA but a baptist minister has to be re-ordained. This is a point to upset the evangelicals with." - R.I.W. -

Is this an indication of your own possible future, Robert? I doubt though that many Roman Catholic priests that I know would have much to do with ACNA - even if His Holiness were to give his approval, which is doubtful.

Posted by Father Ron Smith at Wednesday, 8 April 2009 at 1:59am BST

"As a way of thanking this rector for his integrity the bishop ordered clergy in the diocese to send dozens of people to the vacated parish for several weeks after the rector's final Sunday."

Bishops can, of course, order anything they want...but clergy cannot make their congregants do anything they don't want to. We're not soldiers under orders, after all.

Perhaps the people of the diocese in question merely wanted to show where the majority of Episcopalians stand.

Posted by Pat O'Neill at Wednesday, 8 April 2009 at 3:14am BST

Fr Ron should cease making comments of a personal nature against RIW, it is both offensive and has long become very tedious.


Posted by Martin Reynolds at Wednesday, 8 April 2009 at 10:00am BST

The debate about the 'Buddhist Bishop' does seem to be changing as this is not so much the focus any more. So what if he meditates using Buddhist techniques. There is a shift towards what seems to be liturgical innovation. I had a look at some of his texts and thought one part suitable for a Unitarian service I am taking on Easter Day: reference to doubt, other denominations and other faiths. He has everyone saying it together, but I realised I cannot. It is too Christ centred and would assume an assent in the congregation if said collectively that's not there. There might be openness and diversity, but it coheres around statements like "proclaim the gospel" and "the healing Spirit of Christ" which "we proclaim". I can say it, but only just. To me, then, he is clearly Christian and this is not comparable, for example, with Anne Redding and her adoption of the Shahadah.

Posted by Pluralist (Adrian Worsfold) at Wednesday, 8 April 2009 at 5:17pm BST

""A Roman Catholic priest can join ACNA but a baptist minister has to be re-ordained. This is a point to upset the evangelicals with." - R.I.W. -"

Surely, Baptist ministers are not ordained?

A different barrel of fish, methinks.

Posted by Göran Koch-Swahne at Thursday, 9 April 2009 at 11:38am BST

The point is that the evangelicals are no loneger in control. The Reformed Episcopal Church accepted non episcopal clergy without re-ordination..but to join ACNA it overturned this principle. No wonder Church Society put inverted commas around the appellation "orthodox"in referring to ACNA. This will prove their achilles heel.

Posted by Robert Ian Williams at Thursday, 9 April 2009 at 6:02pm BST
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