Comments: General Convention last day actions

I'm rather surprised to find that my bishop (+Wolf, RI) did not sign the "Anaheim Statement." She was one of the group called the Windsor Bishops, but not part of the Anaheim group (or whatever).

By the way, it was fitting that today was the feast day of William White, our first PB. His collect reads,

"O Lord, in a time of turmoil and confusion you raised up your servant William White, and endowed him with wisdom, patience, and a reconciling temper, that he might lead your Church into ways of stability and peace: Hear our prayer, and give us wise and faithful leaders, that through their ministry your people may be blessed and your will be done; through Jesus Christ our Lord, who lives and reigns with you and the Holy Spirit, one God, for ever and ever. Amen."

Posted by BillyD at Saturday, 18 July 2009 at 12:09am BST

Thanks lots to the authors of the communion wide letter. I had not realized earlier that the draft submissions to GC fell into the three contexts described in the letter. That little piece of info is very helpful, at least at the moment.

Short of Rowan Williams actually getting a clue for a change, I'm not too optimistic about the educational impact of this letter as such. RW has already started going on record with remarks that suggest he will slide along with the whole big walking apart mantra from the farthest Anglican rights, a repetitive scapegoating of the queer folks and their family-friends for causing Anglicans to go downhill yet again. The right did it with Dromantine, Windsor, Dar Es Salaam, and the last Lambeth. What else is news?

Sadly, I still guess that RW will find going along doesn't keep his own church from being assaulted in the going IRD-planned manner. A conscientious walking apart is increasingly the only sane and ethical path, faced with the greasy sleazy Anglican conservative manner in which believers show their street cred by talking about how lovely it is when God magically turns queer folks into totally conformed straight people, just like themselves.

Sooner or later, like an initiate in a violent straight male teenage gang, Rowan will have to actually bash some queer person to show how serious and pure his religion is, pumping holy testosterone. Or else. I'm estimating the Jeffrey J affair writ large, with very overt polarizations.

Maybe going all ballistic with TEC and Canada as targets will seem to serve; but I think the Anglican sharks smell blood - have for quite a while now - and will push to escalate the realignment feeding frenzy. Chum. In the Anglican waters. Yum. Yum. Early retirement?

Let's pause all the Anglican fight club stuff, and concentrate on alternatives all around the planet, according to our best conscience. Freedom Train, Freedom Train, Underground Railroads, Safe Houses .... we have a good legacy that sparks ideas of what to do besides keep fighting with the Anglican rights.

Posted by drdanfee at Saturday, 18 July 2009 at 12:32am BST

What Dr Dan said!

Posted by Göran Koch-Swahne at Saturday, 18 July 2009 at 7:01am BST

Yes it is fitting it was the " feast " of Bishop White..he wanted to throw the Nicene Creed out of the American Paryer Book, but the Archbishop of Canterbury and Bishop Seabury insisted he put it back.

Posted by Robert Ian Williams at Saturday, 18 July 2009 at 7:16am BST

BillyD, maybe someone pointed out to good ole Geralyn the hypocrisy of claiming to defend traditional marriage while being married to a divorced man.

Posted by JPM at Saturday, 18 July 2009 at 3:55pm BST

Bishop White was very much the Low Church Latitudinarian, RIW. Unlike Bishop Seabury, who was very much the High Church Catholic.

Posted by Kurt at Saturday, 18 July 2009 at 4:02pm BST

Robert, there's no reason for the catty scare quotes around the word feast. No one's going to mistake you for anything but a loyal son of the Holy Catholic Apostolic and Roman Church if, out of common courtesy, you use the terminology of us heretics when writing about us. I would think this also reaches to writing things like, "Bishop Duncan offered what he thought was Benediction..." Humor us, if only out of charity. If not out of charity, then maybe out of mere politeness.

Re: the American BCP. Look on the bright side: at least we were able to get rid of the ghastly Athanasian Creed, and to include a full, unmutilated Service of Holy Communion, no matter what the then-AofC thought.

Posted by BillyD at Saturday, 18 July 2009 at 4:25pm BST

Dear drdanfee,

I really don't think RW will dump on queer folks: he (unlike Wright) is too decent, and it still seems clear that his personal views on that subject are unchanged. In any case, acceptance of homosexuality is very widespread in the UK (more so than in the US) - 50%-ish and going upwards. The C of E has to take this into account. Your battle is won. Neither in the UK or in the US or in Canada are liberal Christians going to let you down.



Posted by john at Saturday, 18 July 2009 at 5:55pm BST

Dear John,

Your optimism about Archbishop Williams's attitude is a welcome relief. I do believe that people have yet to realize (after seven years) that the role of Archbishop of Canterbury (and even more so, perhaps, the Bishop of Rome) is not to be an "activist" but rather to be a person who keeps the lines of dialogue open, so to speak. Pope Benedict's latest encyclical, with statements about "pro-life" matters that would make some readers here a little annoyed and words about capitalism that would infuriate some in Colorado Springs, is a good example of the kind of thinking behind the role that Williams exemplifies.

More importantly, I have seen for myself over the last week or so that attitudes in my part of the world are changing, quietly, even if more reactionary forces are about to launch their counterattack. There is hope yet, but it will take a while.

Posted by Ren Aguila at Sunday, 19 July 2009 at 12:08am BST

I'm sure I'm not the only one who has issues with discussing the Archbishop of Canterbury together with the Bishop of Rome. The problem with Rowan Williams is precisely that he seems not to grasp that his office is not like that claimed by the Bishop of Rome. In short, +++Rowan is not now, nor has he ever been, nor will he ever be, a Pope.

Posted by WilliamK at Sunday, 19 July 2009 at 8:21pm BST

I wonder how many of those bishops are divorced and remarried?

Posted by JPM at Monday, 20 July 2009 at 3:45pm BST

"Humor us, if only out of charity. If not out of charity, then maybe out of mere politeness."

BillyD, there is, sadly, a certain brand of convert that seems to have forgotten common courtesy, let alone charity.

Posted by Davis d'Ambly at Tuesday, 21 July 2009 at 3:09pm BST
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