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Passing flashes, a casual read:

I wonder how the strictly realigned conservative Anglican Communion can avoid having to be really good friends - with extreme, pre-modern doubts, beliefs, and practices.

Can we be pre-modern in a circumscribed area (condemnation queer folks), yet not be further taken with other pre-modern-alternative accounts of reality or Nature entire? Once we leave best practices of hypothesis testing behind in one hot button controversy, aren't we really saying that best practices are the problem, that modernity is the core problem?

Exorcism of gay demons was tried at one of the Lambeths? Only an unclean evil spirit could possibly make someone feel same sex attractions?

Neatly, this fits with the legacy received belief system. Some bad thing must have happened so that a wonderful regular straight person is dragged down to being that foul creature, Gay?

Reliance on demon possession is much closer to the one-size-fits-all model, Reparative Therapy (just mildly dissed by the APA statement) than RTers might like to admit.

Evidence from USA Connecticut:
See news rpt vid at:

See full exorcism vid at:

Since Bishop Martynn Minns, say, of the ACNA group says he is both pentecostal and evangelical, one wonders under what circumstances he, too, could be induced to stand by or directly participate, as so-called gay demons are exorcised?

Is Rowan Williams kidding himself, if he guesses that we can selectively go a certain ways backward to maintain our flat earth beliefs about queer folks and sexuality, without the lure of just going whole hog into the lunatic religious fringe which denies child protection, polio prevention, evolutionary biology, and perhaps eventually any science at all, totally?

Redefining the new fangled Anglicanism via these commitments to shut down critical thinking in favor of closed, final Status Quo doctrines is an initiative which preaches that it has only our best human interests at heart, eternal best interests at that. Rowan Williams preaches that no Anglican believer depends on unintelligent readings of the scriptures; I'm not all that sure about that, RW. Dumbing down Anglicanism, mainly so that traditional queer bashing and/or hiding continue to be the church life rules of thumb – maybe it makes sense to you right now, RW, but surely these Status Quo strategies cannot bode well for us globally in the challenging long run.

Truth Train Is A-Comin. Please wait, Anglican Second Track?

Posted by drdanfee at Saturday, 8 August 2009 at 5:04pm BST

Elaine Storkey is wrong. The CofE investment policy on the arms industry is hypocritical. If wars may be just then nations trying to live by Christian, liberal or humanitarian principles need to invest in the production of arms.

Bishops may no longer 'bless battleships' but soldiers, sailors and airmen still get the blessing and pastoral support of the church through their chaplains - or is the ethical investment committee really saying (along with the government) that it is OK to send our troops to war but we shouldn't give them the best possible equipment to do the job?

Posted by andrew holden at Monday, 10 August 2009 at 9:14am BST

Gordon Brown's voting record is one of the things making this country less Christian. That coupled with a delusion of grandeur that makes politicians think they can redefine the meaning of words like 'Christian'.

Posted by Christopher Shell at Monday, 10 August 2009 at 9:16am BST

"making this country less Christian"

Who was it said "My Kingdom is not of this world."?

Posted by Ford Elms at Wednesday, 12 August 2009 at 9:18pm BST
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