Comments: Equality Bill - Lords Second Reading

The Archbishop of York is wrong - the actual legislation for women priests does not permit parishes to petition for extended episcopal oversight - that permission is in the Act of Synod only - and the AofS never came to parliament.

PEVs are therefore not enshrined in legislation whicvh has passed through parliament.

Posted by frozenchristian at Thursday, 17 December 2009 at 11:52am GMT

The Bill merely clarifies what both caselaw and the EU directive have suggested was always meant to be the case. The Church must stop trying to find extra ways of discriminating against people. It makes them look like bigots. Perhaps it reflects the reality of their stance

Posted by Merseymike at Thursday, 17 December 2009 at 12:41pm GMT

The whole traditional church life antigay business is increasingly expensive on any number of practical global religious and cultural fronts, and yields so far less and less diminishing payoffs in result.

Examples? Well, let's see.

In return for Rowan Williams loyal toadying to most of the existing rightwing Anglican antigay views, he has received in return (from that rightwing Anglican sector):

(1) the formation of ACNA aimed at being the only existing Anglican New Covenant First Track member left standing after the likely protracted Covenant Complaint Process;
(2)state sponsored antigay violence being codified more extremely, with Uganda and Rwanda being the examples of our hot button moments;
(3) a constantly burbling toxic pot of new invigorated Anglican global anti-intellectualism which categorically regards itself as the highest possible closed revelation authority.

Funny, all that. I read nothing in the New Covenant which will set any of those global Anglican shifts back to some former Status Quo; not even by bringing all Anglican parties to any fair table of mutual talk and common prayer across differences. A complaint procedure is taking over just where common prayer according to conservative Anglican scruples leaves off. A main covenant effect is to deliberately move Anglican differences outside the Covenant via Complaints Adjudicated.

Gee we would all have been much better off if Rowan Williams had been a decently best practices trained, real Chief of Police?

Posted by drdanfee at Friday, 18 December 2009 at 11:29pm GMT

I agree with you, Dr. Dan, when you express the notion that acceptance of ACNA as a first class Anglican Communion Covenant partner would place TEC in an invidious position. However, the rest of us Anglicans, who really believe that ACNA's schismatic stance has already distanced it from any traditional Anglican understanding of a working partnership - based on mutual respect for one another's redemptive missionary outreach to the marginalised of our individual contexts - may not want to be part of such a compromise.

For the Instruments of Unity to consider the claims of ACNA to truly represent Anglicanism in North America would be a disaster beyond compare -not only for the Communion but for the cause of justice in the Church and the World.

Posted by Father Ron Smith at Sunday, 20 December 2009 at 8:41am GMT
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