Comments: ACNA: the background reading

Thank you for posting these documents. It is perfectly clear what motivated and motivates these people. Why anyone in C of E would want to support their larceny and duplicity is beyond me.

Posted by Cynthia Gilliatt at Saturday, 6 February 2010 at 12:43pm GMT

Some time ago, a book was published in the U.S. entitled Interlocking Directorates. The point of its editors was to disclose who really ran US corporations and how they knew each other. At one point, I began a similar inquiry into the religious right, particularly those nominated by +Duncan for African episcopacy. There were clear patterns. Truro (Minns, Nolls,++Carey) Trinty Ambridge (Nolls, Pittsburgh etc.) The A.A.C. David Anderson. +Orombi and St. James Newport etc. But, on looking at it closely, Duncan's nominees shared two characteristics. They either delivered a legitimate constituency, no matter how small or a funding stream. Although the constituency arena concerned me, the funding stream area really gave me pause. Guernsey, Atwood and Anderson, were clearly in this camp. With big money comes big strings and when that money goes offshore, so does its accountability. Anderson runs what is effectively a lobby, not a church or congregation. Guernsey seems, with Dallas and Bishop Stanton's wife, the funding stream for Orombi's "employees" Alison Barfoot and Stephen Nolls, Vice Chancellor of Ugandan Christian University. Although Jim Naughton's article was wonderful in identifying the sources of funds (and they were few with big deep pockets), what else is happening to the money is anybody's guess. +Orombi, +Akinola (or his replacement)etc., don't seem to be telling.

Posted by EmilyH at Saturday, 6 February 2010 at 2:18pm GMT

"Oh, what a wondrous web we weave, when at first we do deceive"

Let's hope these hitherto concealed memos come back to haunt the reactionary elements of former TEC bishops and priests, whose plotting of dark deeds have now been exposed to the world, and who still seek re-connection, on their own terms, with the Anglican Communion.

The audacity with which people like 'Archbishop' Robert Duncan and co. have pursued their agenda of intentional schism ought, at least, to give the members of the C.of E. General Synod pause for thought before they are misled into going along with ACNA's agenda.

To bruise the relationship between the provinces of the Anglican Communion on the basis of this horrendous duplicity (ACNA's claim for preferred recognition as the 'orthodox' representatives of Anglicanism on the North American Continent) would inevitably contribute to the demise of the Anglican tradition of Scripture, Tradition and Reason - already threatened by the homophobia of certain Global South Provinces - would end up in the proliferation of even more little 'Anglican' enclaves than there are at present.

Church Unity will not be served by accommodating the strident demands of ACNA & the secessionists.

Posted by Father Ron Smith at Saturday, 6 February 2010 at 8:41pm GMT

"ACNA is recognized by the vast majority of African, Southern Cone and Australian leaders, Archbishop Duncan is de facto a member of The Anglican Communion. It is true he is not a member of TEC (he was deposed) nor of the Anglican Church of Canada or the Church of England. However, if the Church of England Synod does recognize ACNA, that will change."
- virtue-on-line (response to TEC statement) -

This statement by David Virtue, who hosts what he is pleased to call the largest 'Orthodox Anglican web-site', has to be taken with a large pinch of salt. For instance, his claim that ACNA is recognized by 'a large majority of Australian Church Leaders' is a blatant lie. the Archbishop of Sydney and his singularly conservative archdiocese does not represent anything like the large majority of Australian Anglicans.

And as for Virtue's reference that Bishop Robert Duncan was deposed by TEC's Presiding Bishop, this deposition was a direct result of the fact that he deserted the polity of TEC. The Presiding Bishop had no alternative but to remove him from the House of Bishops of TEC. His own actions prompted the deposition. His newly-arrogated status of Archbishop is not connected with any relationship he may have had with TEC.

And the matter of Virtue's declaration of Duncan's 'de facto' status in the Anglican Communion: How can this be true when Duncan and ACNA are now seeking to become members?

Mr Virtue's consummate duplicity and downright dishonesty never ceases to amaze me. However, he is desperate to be recognized as the authentic voice of 'Orthodox Anglicans' around the world. so what more could one expect from such a spurious provenance.

Posted by Father Ron Smith at Monday, 8 February 2010 at 4:30am GMT

Fr. Ron Smith wrote: "Mr Virtue's consummate duplicity and downright dishonesty never ceases to amaze me. However, he is desperate to be recognized as the authentic voice of 'Orthodox Anglicans' around the world. so what more could one expect from such a spurious provenance."

Mr. Virtue's consistent techniques rather remind me of the quote attributed to the master propagandist, Joseph Goebbels: "“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

Posted by Jerry Hannon at Monday, 8 February 2010 at 4:17pm GMT
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