Comments: Los Angeles consecrations

A truly great moment for women, glbt people and their value in the Church. Let's hope the Archbishop of Canterbury will now moderate his "regrettable" comments of the previous summer and embrace this fine woman as an equal member in Christ's Church. I imagine the hate speech from the global south and fundamentalist bishops like the ones from the not yet recognized "Anglican Church of North America" will be forthcoming in the next few days, but I believe most people will be turned off by such words and will take the position that it is time to move on. At any rate, this is a truly great moment in the history of Christianity and Anglicanism. This is also a great learning and "teaching moment" for the Roman Catholic Church if it will accept the opportunity of this moment in time. It is time for Rome to put on its' "listening" ears, and open their minds as well as their hearts.

Posted by Chris Smith at Sunday, 16 May 2010 at 4:46pm BST

Ruth Gledhill's column is excellent.

Posted by Charlotte at Sunday, 16 May 2010 at 5:36pm BST

I did not give the link to the Ruth Gledhill column to which I was referring. It is : http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article7128041.ece

"For the Sake of God, Anglican Church Must Put Aside Its Differences."

Posted by Charlotte at Sunday, 16 May 2010 at 5:43pm BST

Hallelujah!
This is the day God has made, let us rejoice and be glad in it!

Posted by peterpi at Sunday, 16 May 2010 at 6:04pm BST

It is important to remember that any "rift" or "tear" or any such is in fact "a rift IN the Anglican Communion" -- it is not a rift between the Anglican Communion and some entity not a part (or no longer a part, as Anglican Mainstream and others would have it) of the Anglican Communion.

So much of this is based on the self-fulfilling false prophecy of those who attribute more authority to the Instruments of Communion than they have been granted by the actual member churches and provinces of the Communion. The fact is, we disagree -- and we are not alone in our disagreement. Lambeth has no doctrinal authority; the Primates may express an opinion, but dissenters are under absolutely no obligation to follow or concur with their judgment. The Windsor Report contains recommendations that the provinces have yet to endorse.

It is all so very much a "make it up as we go along" sort of ecclesiology. Unless and until some form of the Anglican Covenant is signed off on, the Anglican Communion remains a "fellowship of autonomous" provinces and churches without a central governing authority. And only those who agree to the proposed Covenant will be part of whatever new constellation emerges. In the meantime, Diane and Mary are bishops in good standing in the Episcopal Church, and hence, in the Anglican Communion. They will be welcome where they are welcome, and rebuffed where they will be rebuffed: actions entirely within the competency of any diocesan bishop outside of Los Angeles.

Deal with it.

Posted by Tobias Haller at Sunday, 16 May 2010 at 8:35pm BST

Whittell & Gledhill: "Stunned by the ferocity of protests over Bishop Robinson’s ordination, the Episcopal Church approved a temporary ban on the ordination of more gay bishops, but revoked it last summer ***after*** the Los Angeles diocese announced its intention to ordain Canon Glasspool." [Emph. added]

False. The General Convention's approval of [Somebody help me out w/ the Resolution#! D35?], believed by most to render the previous GC's moratorium (B033) moot, was achieved about 6 months ***BEFORE*** Canon Glasspool was elected bishop (in December).

However, I shouldn't bury the lead: Thanks be to God, for our new bishops +Diane and +Mary! God bless TEC! Alleluia! :-D

Posted by JCF at Sunday, 16 May 2010 at 8:40pm BST

Contrary to Whittell & Gledhill, Jon Bruno is 'only' the Bishop of the Diocese of Los Angeles, and not an Archbishop. I expect he will be royally pleased, however.
And hurrah!

Posted by Cynthia Gilliatt at Sunday, 16 May 2010 at 8:56pm BST

I may have missed it in the Whittell/Gledhill article, but I think they failed to mention that the chief consecrator was our Presiding Bishop [not an Archbishop either], Katharine Jefferts Schori.

Posted by Cynthia Gilliatt at Monday, 17 May 2010 at 2:19am BST

"Sexuality figures nowhere in the creeds. It is not mentioned in the church’s liturgies. When godparents bear witness to a baby’s baptism they do not swear to help to raise the infant as straight."
- Ruth Gledhill, Times on line -

Thanks Ruth, for this timely article. By their consecration as Bishops in the Church of God, Mary and Diane, have been empowered by the Holy Spirit to carry out the onerous tasks of the episcopate in the Church of their ordination - TEC.

Bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori has demonstrated her belief that the Gospel of Christ is a potent sign of God's inclusive Good News to all - male & female, straight & gay - without discrimination -all whom God calls to God's self. This is not just an institutional calling but the sovereign call of God upon the lives of two redoubtable women in the American Church. Someone always has to 'step out of line' in order the mission of Christ to continue in the world. Bravo TEC!

May God bless the Episcopal Church under the leadership of such as Katharine, Mary and Diana! These women are the modern-day equivalent of the women Saints of the Church who, in their own day, were able to advance the cause of the Gospel. Many such come to mind - Hilda of Whitby, Catherine of Siena, Clare of Assisi, Teresa of Avila, etc., all of whom had reason to challenge the patriarchalism of the Church in their day. Deo Gratias!

Posted by Father Ron Smith at Monday, 17 May 2010 at 10:08am BST

Does anyone share my sense of sympathy for the place that +Diane Jardine Bruce finds herself in? When I tried to google her name, I immediately found a picture of +Mary Glasspool. To be elected as a bishop in a diocese where she is one of the parish clergy is a tremeous achievement, and worthy of great celebration in its own right, but someow she is portrayed as that other nice lady at Mary Glasspool"s consecration.
Still, I suppose it has its compensations. The spotlight will remain on +Mary in the months and years to come, and +Diane will be able to get on with the job, which I am sure, judging from her CV,that she will achieve with great grace and skill.

My God less them both richly

Edward Prebble

Posted by Edward Prebble at Tuesday, 18 May 2010 at 1:06am BST

"The nature of the Communion’s structures at present is such that effecting this distancing will require clear and decisive action by the Archbishop of Canterbury. At the very least he needs to make clear that bishops participating in the May consecration in Los Angeles will thereby exclude themselves from being invited by him to participate in the Instruments or to represent the Communion in any form." - Fulcrum Statement from G.S. on-line -

And what about Nigeria's disassociation from the Archbishop of Canterbury in their action of removing any reference to Canterbury from their Provincial Statutes? Has this not already barred at least Nigeria from any association with Canterbury - and therefore unable to comment on any future Covenant agreement with Canterbury?

Such hubris from the likes of the Global South and Fulcrum is almost unbelievable! But then the likes of ACI and ACNA, whose love-hate relationship to Canterbury is legendary, are also involved in this pitiful smoke-screen - pretending to swear their loyalty to the Anglican Communion while doing their best to decimate it.

Their plea for the ABC to 'do something' about the present 'stand-off' in the Communion runs clearly counter to their giving him the cold-shoulder on other aspects of his primacy-inter pares. Why they don't just make an outright declaration of their rival claims to the title of 'Anglicanism' and get off everyone else's back I just don't know. Only then can the rest of us get down to the serious business of proclaiming the inclusivity of Christ in the Gospel.

Posted by Father Ron Smith at Tuesday, 18 May 2010 at 5:36am BST

No I've been finding nice pics of them both -- and sometimes Barbara Harris -- great she was present - History X 2 !

And sometimes the PB and a smiling Jon Bruno

Very joyous and hope raising ! I loved all the inclusive music and dance too

Posted by Rev L Roberts at Tuesday, 18 May 2010 at 10:45am BST

No one need worry about +Diane. I have known and worked with her for several years and look forward to the new work we will do together.

Posted by Richard Zevnik at Tuesday, 18 May 2010 at 5:47pm BST
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