Comments: Church Groups Unite Against Anglican Covenant

Bravo! May these ads have a powerful impact. Perhaps this is the best way to present views by those opposed to the Covenant. I hope this opens the discussion wide up and divulges the serious implications if such a "covenant" were to be enacted by the Church of England.

Posted by Chris Smith at Thursday, 28 October 2010 at 10:57pm BST

Hurrah!! Sense at last!

Posted by Jeremy Pemberton at Thursday, 28 October 2010 at 11:56pm BST

Excellent. Deserves the widest circulation possible.

Posted by Richard Ashby at Friday, 29 October 2010 at 9:20am BST

Major groups? How do you come to that conclusion?

Posted by Ed Tomlinson at Friday, 29 October 2010 at 9:43am BST

They could have made more of an argument for their wider Anglican audiences.

http://pluralistspeaks.blogspot.com/2010/10/trying-to-stop-thing.html

Posted by Pluralist at Friday, 29 October 2010 at 10:34am BST

Graham Kings wants the General Synod to say yes so the dioceses can discuss it, thus accuses Modern Church etc. of restricting discussion. Nonsense - the General Synod is a legitimate and representative place to vote on the thing at the Church level. What he means is keep passing it until he can demand that it should be passed.

http://www.fulcrum-anglican.org.uk/forum/thread.cfm?thread=16951&sort=creatasc

If you don't want it, vote against it.

http://pluralistspeaks.blogspot.com/2010/10/trying-to-stop-thing.html

Posted by Pluralist at Friday, 29 October 2010 at 10:43am BST

"Graham Kings wants the General Synod to say yes so the dioceses can discuss it"

Has anything prevented dioceses discussing the Daft Covenant in its various iincarnations over the past 5 years?

Posted by Nom de Plume at Friday, 29 October 2010 at 12:23pm BST

Canadian Anglicans have been asked to study the covenant by General Synod in advance of 2013. As of yet, there is no organized plan or process in place for that to be done.

Posted by Rod Gillis at Friday, 29 October 2010 at 2:48pm BST

• By signing, it undertakes not to introduce any new development if another Anglican province anywhere in the world opposes it – unless granted prior permission from a new international body, the Standing Committee of the Anglican Communion. •

Not true. The Standing Committee has no such authority in the Covenant. The Standing Committee is not a new entity, just a new name for an existing entity.

If you are against something winning approval, which yes I am against the Covenant, it is best to understand it and not misrepresent it.

Posted by David | Dah•veed at Friday, 29 October 2010 at 3:34pm BST

Where do I sign up ?

Yes, circulate it widely. If Synod passes it with so little discussion and no consultation they will have trivialised both it and themselves -- and all of us.

Btw Is the Anglican Communion intent on gradually taking up great religious words and limiting even belittling them by such usage ?

So we often get nowadays lazily 'the Communion' when what is intended is 'the Anglican Communion'; and the Covenant when what is meant is the Anglican Covenant.

The Communion is the sacrament, and also the Communion of Saints (nuff said); and the Covenant is - well read the Bible! To call any denomination The Communion would be offensive if one did not know it is rather lazy and not thought through. Also could feature in a Pullman novel, as something rather ambiguous !

Also don't get me started on 'the (so-called) Instruments of C.

Been wanting to get that of my chest for some time !

I favour adoption of the Methodist Covenant used especially on 1st January -after asking nicely. No more is needed.

Posted by Laurence Roberts at Friday, 29 October 2010 at 6:30pm BST

This statement, by Inclusive Church and 'Modern Church', enunciates quite clearly the problems facing the Church of England's General Synod as it begins to explore the relative benefits and disadvantages of taking onboard the culture of the proposed Anglican Covenant.

Not only would its adoption compromise the independence of the Church of England, it would deliver power into the hands of a completely new 'Instrument of Unity' which, contrary to its stated intention, would become nothing less than an instrument of disunity within the Communion as a whole.

To deliver overall authority into the hands of an unelected sodality as the new 'Standing Committee of the Anglican Communion' would render the present Instruments obsolete, thereby completely undermining the more representative A.C.C, which allows the input of informed laity as well as clergy in the Communion at large.

Not only will the Church of England suffer as a direct result of marginalisation within the Communion; other Provinces, which have striven to keep up with the need for innovative structures to include new standards of justice and human development, will be sidelined - by Provinces which adhere to outdated standards of corporate spiritual discipline and order within the Church.

For the Anglican Communion to give way to the outmoded anomalies of homophobia and misogyny - by the enforcement of an out-dated system of disciplinary hierarchical Church government - would do little to encourage the modern world to be a part of it.

It could be the end of the Anglican Communion as we have known, worked with and loved it hitherto.

Posted by Father Ron Smith at Friday, 29 October 2010 at 7:22pm BST
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