Comments: Episcopal Resignations - Thursday roundup

'...while Roman Catholicism offers the certainty they sought, it does not necessarily possess anything like the community they once enjoyed in their parish church even if a lot of the conversation was complaints about the malaise of the Church of England.'

A very perceptive commment from Living Church in my view. The grass is greener and all that but the result may be some very lonely people who really end up homeless. Very sad.

Posted by Richard Ashby at Thursday, 11 November 2010 at 5:33pm GMT

Unlike FiF-UK, which so far has been an Anglican, in the correct sense of that word, organization, FiF-NA, even before the assorted secessions of recent years, has been a stew of Anglo-Catholic members of TEC and members of a rag-bag of sects with varied histories and lines of "apostolic succession" which are not in communion with and never have been in communion with Canterbury.

http://www.forwardinfaith.com/resources/parishes-na.html

The council statement is probably another ACNA squib.

Posted by Lapinbizarre at Thursday, 11 November 2010 at 7:10pm GMT

But how does Living Church possibly speak from experience when the Ordinariate option has never been tested?

This time people stay together with their priest and possibly in their building. A very, very different situation than in 1992

Posted by Ed Tomlinson at Thursday, 11 November 2010 at 9:31pm GMT

"“We have been dismayed, over the last thirty years, to see Anglicans and Catholics move further apart on some of the issues of the day, and particularly we have been distressed by developments in Faith and Order in Anglicanism which we believe to be incompatible with the historic vocation of Anglicanism and the tradition of the Church for nearly two thousand years,” said the bishops’ statement."

- Living Church News Service -

The phrase "We have been distressed by developments in Faith and Order in Anglicanism which we believe to be incompatible with the historic vocation of Anglicanism..." is not so very different from the cries of the conservative element in the Roman Catholic Church that saw the workings of Vatican II as a similar 'departure from the historical vocation of the R.C.Church.

Both parties, who refuse to accept that the Holy Spirit may just be calling the Church in our day to a new and re-vitalised vocation of Christian witness in and to the world, need to understand the meaning of God's injunction to the Church - "My ways are not your ways, nor my thoughts your thoughts" when pondering them mystery of God's saving power & grace for all people - not just the male of the species nor just to heterosexuals.

If the Church were to remain in the 'Dark Ages', there would never have been the emancipation of slaves, women, or Gentiles. Living into the future is a risky business. Christ's disciples were never promised that following Christ would be easy. The Pharisees would have found it very hard. What we must never do is project an image of ourselves as 'holier than thou' - whoever thou happens to be in our view of God's world. Jesus Christ came into this world to save 'Sinners', and that's every one of us.

Posted by Father Ron Smith at Thursday, 11 November 2010 at 11:16pm GMT

'...while Roman Catholicism offers the certainty they sought, it does not necessarily possess anything like the community they once enjoyed in their parish church even if a lot of the conversation was complaints about the malaise of the Church of England.'

All too true, except that even the 'certainty' is merely papier-maché, since it is predicated on the boycotting of all dialogue and consultation. The Anglican Communion is in a far healthier state than the Catholic Church, because it enjoys the blessings of open discussion as well as the tensions, and because it is able to worship the Lord with beautiful music, gesture and language, and a vibrant sense of community.

Posted by Spirit of Vatican II at Friday, 12 November 2010 at 6:45am GMT

Now there stands a true Spirit of Vatican II enthusiast. Bless you VII. Would that your fellow Catholics were more like you and Good Pope John. Then the Church might indeed be ONE, and a bit more holy and less self-righteous.

Posted by Father Ron Smith at Sunday, 14 November 2010 at 9:30am GMT
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