Comments: some criticisms of episcopal statements

Savi Hensman is, as usual, right on the mark.

The ABC is correct, of course. The faithfulness of so many church members in the face of oppression in countries like the Congo, or Kenya is indeed inspirational and humbling. He is also wrong, in failing to acknowledge the equally humbling and inspirational work of those who have stood in solidarity with oppressed GLBT folk both in 'western' countries and in the two-thirds world. He is also wrong in failing to acknowledge that the Church is responsible for a significant share of that oppression.

Oppression and injustice should be challenged wherever it occurs, even (especially?) when abetted by fine Christian souls who have shown such faithfulness in other areas of their lives.

Thank you Savi.

Posted by Edward Prebble at Sunday, 10 July 2011 at 11:44pm BST

The trouble is, everyone knows he believes precisely that. (gay people are oppressed and the Church is amongst the worst violators)

But as Andrew Brown so fluently presents to us in his piece below (journalism at its best) recording how he accompanied Rowan on a visit to Grendon prison - while his position on gays is fatally compromised he remains an outstanding priest a bishop in a class of his own.

Posted by Martin Reynolds at Monday, 11 July 2011 at 9:03am BST

The official motto of the Anglican Communion is, The Truth Shall Make You Free. The fact on the ground, in England anyway, is "The Lie May Make You Bishop."

This is a shameful situation, and has nothing to do with any overarching understanding of morality. I hope that in their reexamination of the "Issues" the leaders of the Church of England will finally come to understand that morality is not based in "the flesh" and come to see that the virtues of fidelity, self-giving, love and charity are applicable to same- as well as mixed-sex couples.

Posted by Tobias Haller at Monday, 11 July 2011 at 2:59pm BST

What are the "five intrusive questions"? I am unable to track them down.

Posted by Nat at Monday, 11 July 2011 at 3:40pm BST
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