Comments: opinion for the Transfiguration

Well done, Pierre, you rocked it! (pun intended)

Posted by David Shepherd at Saturday, 6 August 2011 at 2:08pm BST

Thanks to Bill Carroll for his thoughts on this mysterious and to me quite wonderful story of Jacob, blessed and blessé. Bless comes from the same root as blood and further back still to bless and blesser (to wound) may indeed be related. Every blessing then is something of a wound, a vulnerability perhaps.

Posted by Sara MacVane at Saturday, 6 August 2011 at 3:49pm BST

I agree: +Whalon's piece is very good.

Two quick comments:

1) "if one subscribes to the notion that submission to the papacy equals the Church": I imagine someone like Robert Ian Williams would say that that's been true since Christ named Simon "Peter." [Au contraire, I find the "Peter = Pope(s)" a Romanist self-serving tautology, but nevermind.]

2) "We tend to wait for people to 'come and see' rather than go to meet them where they are. Often, we are unable to see how elitist this can appear." I agree . . . to a point. And the point is, in the course of living the Gospel, we should be *meeting* people where they are. But more often than not, Christians "going to...where people are" has been to recruit/proselytize/EXTRACT. And that's far, FAR worse, than simple religious, um, shyness [I say this as a pronounced introvert!]

Posted by JCF at Monday, 8 August 2011 at 7:54pm BST

"Anglicanism is a different approach to being church. Rather than a doctrinal construct like the Westminster Confession or a theologico-political entity like the Church of Rome, Anglicanism is a method for being Christian. Not THE method — we know better" - Bp.Pierre Whalon -

A very good point here - made by Bishop Whalon - refers to the unique situation of world-wide Anglicanism which, being provincially rather than magisterially led, has had the freedom - at least until now - to pursue the Gospel in situ. This frees the Provinces to bring the Gospel values to bear on the local - rather than the ecclectic - situation, that has particular needs which may differ from those of other geographical entities.

The problems associated with papal supremacy on the one hand and covenantal dogmaticism that substitutes human rule for divine inspiration on the other; have never, hitherto, been part nor parcel of Anglican theology or strategy. This is why Anglicans differ from their co-religionists in the Roman, Orthodox and Calvinist traditions.

The 'Anglican Way' has served the Church and the world by its reasonableness and pragmatic capacity for change and renewal. For a Covenant to replace the open-endedness of Anglicanism would defeat the purpose of 'semper reformanda' that Vatican II espoused but later abandoned.

Posted by Father Ron Smith at Wednesday, 10 August 2011 at 2:38pm BST
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