Comments: Church of England publishes latest statistics

Interesting ordination stats. In the Canadian church, despite pleas from the Pension Corp., Canadian bishops continue to ordain older types to stipendiary ministry, thus making it difficult for young adults (23-30) to have a viable future as life long stipendiary priests.

Posted by Rod Gillis at Friday, 30 September 2011 at 3:09am BST

The young adults are better off out of it- if the Canadian anglican church is anything like the C of E.

Posted by Laurence Roberts at Friday, 30 September 2011 at 1:16pm BST

I'm puzzled - why would ordaining older people stop you ordaining younger ones too? Older stiopendiary ordinands in England get a pro rata pension so ergo younger ones get full pensions.

Posted by FrozenChristian at Friday, 30 September 2011 at 10:58pm BST

Well,Laurence, the problem is, if the church is to reach a younger generation then it is vital that we have young people in positions of leadership.

With regard to frozenchristian, putting young adults in the field as full-time stipendiary life long priests requires putting in place structures that will sustain them in this particular calling over the long haul. If young adults enter ministry with high student loan debts (as they may in Canada), and have little prospect of eventual pension security, and are screened out because they are not "orthodox" enough or conventional enough in their thinking, or are denied adequate funding for meaningful con. ed. then the future is bleak.

On the Canadian scene, we are tending to ordain more and more older folks whose average age pushes up the average age of those in ministry by comparison with other sectors in the wider society. The Canadian church is old, and in the throes of catastrophic demographic collapse. And what are we doing? We are ordaining leaders that reflect rather than challenge the demography. We are setting up financial stumbling blocks for young adults to compound the problem.

Posted by Rod Gillis at Saturday, 1 October 2011 at 1:28am BST

for me the interesting statistic is the 29,000 licenced and authorized ministers, ordained and lay...the C of E has,to some extent re-created the medieval minor orders, and presumably this doesnt include parish administrators or vergers. As former Dean, Trevor Beeson put it in a recent letter to the Times, the challenge is to deploy these people properly. In my experience it is in not getting the right people in the right places that too often inhibits ministry and mission in todays C of E. I remember a RC priest saying to me that the RC Church had much less "talent" than the C of E but deployed what they had well whereas in the C of E too much "talent" ended up in the wrong places or being under or poorly used.Any thoughts?

Posted by Perry Butler at Wednesday, 5 October 2011 at 7:23pm BST
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