Comments: Civil partnerships: CofE HoB review group membership announced

The HoB has recommended that the name of any known homosexual priest shall not be considered for episcopal ordination so as not to pre-empt any future decision. Such niceties seems to have been thrown to the wind, when one looks at the composition of this review group. Who is in any doubt about the opinions of the Bishop of Sodor & Man or the Bishop of Dorchester? Both men have been vocal about where they stand on the issue of Civil Partnerships. Do we think that the newly installed Bishop of Portsmouth ( a former pupil of Dr Williams) will be present as anything other than 'window dressing'? But even if Bishop Foster finds the resolve to present a strong counter voice to that of his fellow reviewers, his will be one vote against two.

I write in the hope that somebody will be able to silence my fears and supply some reassurances that this is a real review.

Posted by Commentator at Thursday, 1 December 2011 at 6:33pm GMT

"The HoB has recommended that the name of any known homosexual priest shall not be considered for episcopal ordination so as not to pre-empt any future decision. Such niceties seems to have been thrown to the wind"

Waitaminnit, you're calling this discriminatory provision a "nicety", Commentator?

Speechless now.

Posted by JCF at Thursday, 1 December 2011 at 7:42pm GMT

With 'Lambeth 1:10 as the basis for a further review of the Church of England's attitude towards Same-Sex Partnerships, it would seem to be only possible to reach one conclusion: No-Go!

All this: despite the fact that General Synod has already passed legislation to allow the surviving Same-Sex partner of a deceased Clergy-person in the Church of England to receive a pension. How dis-connected from reality an that be? When will this structured culture of hypocrisy cease?

Posted by Father Ron Smith at Friday, 2 December 2011 at 10:10am GMT

Putting Robert as chair is described to me by a Welsh bishop like this:

"Balance, dear boy, balance! I must talk to you about this sometime,......"

I regret I have no comfort for Commentator - Robert Patterson was vicar of a parish adjoining mine and is wholly unsympathetic. He sacked a celibate gay curate, and most recently, Fr Smith take note, he was one of only two CofE bishops in General Synod to vote AGAINST extending the pension rights of civilly partnered clerics.

I contacted some gay couples I know who live in Robert's former parishes - Robert would not be their choice for this post! I wonder if there is a single civilly partnered person in the whole of England who would support his appointment.

If there is "balance" here then it is a sort only discovered in Church.

Of course this all is taking place within the broader context of a larger debate on sexuality in England and also in Ireland and soon to be here in Wales. On an earlier thread we were seeing how the Irish Evangelical groupings were positioning themselves for their upcoming conference.

Posted by Martin Reynolds at Friday, 2 December 2011 at 1:32pm GMT

"any known homosexual priest shall not be considered"

oops, did someone forget "living in a committed relationship" or "active" or "practicing" -- or is this really a parting of the veil to indicate that even a celibate and solitary gay priest is out of bounds for consideration?

}}}strains credulity{{{

Posted by Tobias Haller at Friday, 2 December 2011 at 2:49pm GMT

No Tobias the exclusion under Rowan Williams is total.

Posted by Martin Reynolds at Friday, 2 December 2011 at 4:05pm GMT

A bit late to respond now - but the "nicety" is in the 'not pre-empting'. It is not in the banning.

Posted by commentator at Sunday, 4 December 2011 at 5:36pm GMT
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