Comments: Women in the Church of England

Glad to see parliament finally getting a grip on this.

Posted by Laurence Roberts at Monday, 27 February 2012 at 1:13pm GMT

"Most people in this country would be astonished to realise that the Established Church is allowed to enshrine sex discriminatory provisions in law when that has been against public policy for over thirty years."

Never mind 'against public policy' - 'illegal for everyone else' would be more accurate.

Disestablishment is long overdue, in my opinion.

Posted by Laurence C. at Monday, 27 February 2012 at 4:51pm GMT

Outstanding men don't get much of a look in either. The House of Bishops, with a few exceptions seems a pretty mediocre bunch.

Posted by Richard Ashby at Monday, 27 February 2012 at 5:56pm GMT

A very telling point Richard Ashby. The abolition of parsons' freehold will only make things worse, with time.

Posted by Mary Marriott at Monday, 27 February 2012 at 9:24pm GMT

What this parliamentary debate on Tuesday might do, hopefully, is make Members of Parliament aware of the implications of the limitation expected from the House of Bishops' amendment of the Code of Practice, for the authority of a Woman Bishop to make her own decisions about who may, or may not, offer episcopal ministry on her behalf in her diocese.

To allow an extra-diocesan bishop (PEV) to act independently of a woman diocesan bishop’s authority in her diocese, would be to set up a two-tier episcopal ministry in the Church of England. This would surely be unique in the life of the Anglican Communion, and may be become a matter for Covenant sanctions against the C.of E. under the rules of the proposed Covenant.

Posted by Father Ron Smith at Tuesday, 28 February 2012 at 2:32am GMT

Plus the fact that if women bishops fail in July, the Westminster Parliament will be the only western legislature where a particular category of representative is exclusively reserved for men!

One hundred years after the sacrifices of the suffragettes and a woman prime minister.

Posted by Robert Ian Williams at Tuesday, 28 February 2012 at 7:02am GMT

Robert, in connection with your last posting, may I ask you: Is the Vatican State in any sense part of a 'Western Legislature' ? And if so, what, do you think, would be its view on the exclusion of Women Bishops from the Roman Catholic Church?

Posted by Father Ron Smith at Tuesday, 28 February 2012 at 10:25pm GMT

Ron, the Vatican is not a democracy and makes no pretence to being one! Whereas the Westminster parliament claims to be the mother of Parliaments.

Posted by Robert ian williams at Thursday, 1 March 2012 at 7:20am GMT

Yes. I guess you're right Robert. The Vatican is nothing less than a theocratic state - one in which ordinary civil rights are superfluous.

Posted by Father Ron Smith at Thursday, 1 March 2012 at 9:53am GMT

No it doesn't.

ENGLAND is the Mother of Parliaments, not the unruly child at Westminster.

Posted by John Roch at Thursday, 1 March 2012 at 9:54am GMT
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