Comments: Archbishop of Wales Dr Barry Morgan elected to the CNC

Archbishop Morgan is, of course, an excellent chap and I'm sure he will bring his great personal wisdom and insight to the CNC.

I do rather wonder, however, who is likely to be pleased by this appointment. For anti-Covenanters who fear the scarlet peril of Anglo-Papalism, the presence of any 'Communion' primate on the commission looks like creeping imperialism. For those who do want the daughter-churches of the communion to have a greater say in the process, inviting the Welsh primate to sit on the CNC looks little short of incestuous. Personally , I think it's a noble gesture, but not one that's likely to win many bouquets in the Middle East and West Asia (who devised those bizarre 'regions' anyway?).

Posted by rjb at Thursday, 10 May 2012 at 11:13am BST

Nothing to do with 'creeping imperialism' but a chance to hear an outside perspective. This person doesn't have a casting vote and is not in the majority so surely this represents just a small opportunity to hear from another part of the Communion.

What was intended as a move toward openness by the C of E is now viewed as an attempt at world domination! But, then it is easier to assume bad motives in those whose opinions differ from ours.

The process of choosing the ABC, like the unlucky person chosen, is going to be damned by one side or another, including by regulars on this blog. The system the C of E has is imperfect - like everyone else's systems - but it is the one the Spirit will work through. The assistance of the Archbishop of Wales is likely to do more good than harm, I dare to think.

Posted by abbey mouse at Thursday, 10 May 2012 at 12:46pm BST

Wasn't Akinola or Jensen available then?

Posted by Father David at Thursday, 10 May 2012 at 12:58pm BST

The current members of the Standing Committee are (with their countries of residence):
Abp Rowan Williams (President, England), Bp James Tengatenga (Chair, Malawi), Canon Elizabeth Paver (Vice-Chair, England), Bp David Chillingworth (Scotland), Abp Paul Kwong (Hong Kong), Bp Samuel Azariah (Pakistan), Abp Daniel Deng Bul Yak (Sudan), Bp Katharine Jefferts Schori (USA), Mrs Philippa Amable (Ghana), Bp Ian Douglas (USA), Dr Anthony Fitchett (New Zealand), Dato Stanley Isaacs (Malaysia), Canon Janet Trisk (South Africa), The Revd Maria Cristina Borges Alvarez (Cuba).

The GAFCON primates and members have either withdrawn from the processes which would have given them greater representation, or else their uncompromising and extremist position has made it impossible for them to win an STV vote, which tends to favour compromise candidates.

The appointment of the liberal and progressive Dr Morgan can, therefore, hardly come as a surprise to them.

Posted by badman at Thursday, 10 May 2012 at 1:21pm BST

Sadly yet another appointment from the "first" world. I would have been much more encouraged, nay, I believe it critical for the future ABC to have a credible role in the AC for there to have been an appointment from the Global South.

We who live and minister in the Global South long for some real geographical diversity, not another member of the western Anglican establishment. IMHO I expect attendance at the next ACC meeting will reflect this lack of courageous vision and dominance of the western Provinces.

Posted by Ian Montgomery at Thursday, 10 May 2012 at 2:04pm BST

Ian, the Western Provinces are only dominating the selection of a bishop and primate of a Western Province. They are doing and want to do absolutely nothing in or to the Global South (in this particular context). It's the Global South that wants the right to do things in and to the Western Provinces in this context.

Posted by Nathan at Thursday, 10 May 2012 at 4:56pm BST

I think it used to be the case that the Secretary General from the ACO also attended but did not have a vote.

Is Archbishop Morgan's appointment a replacement for this arrangement?

Posted by Jonathan Jennings at Thursday, 10 May 2012 at 9:55pm BST

Jonathan, it is additional, not a replacement.

Posted by Simon Sarmiento at Thursday, 10 May 2012 at 11:08pm BST

This is one of those things that looks like a good idea on paper, but...

By all means take soundings from the Standing Committee, just as one would take soundings from here and there and all kinds of people in doing the preparation for the candidate profile for a diocesan appointment. But the trouble with giving the Communion (whatever that may be) a voting place on the committee to choose an English diocesan bishop (with knobs on granted) is that is muddles things. It pushes them in a more grandiose and universal direction - just at a point when I think the Communion should learn to behave more modestly, with less concern about universal jurisdiction or even co-ordination, and should value the natural ties and affectionate bonds that continue to be developed.

If you give the Communion a vote then what happens if they don't like the way "their" Archbishop works out? It is one voice among many I know, but I think it is not the right way to go.

Posted by JeremyP at Friday, 11 May 2012 at 6:23am BST

A Safe Bet I would say - especially at the present time when the GAFCON crowd seems about to swamp the liberal voices in the Anglican Communion. At least, Wales is a friendly Province to Canterbury - while yet being canonically separate from the Church of England, whose leadership responsibility lies with the See Canterbury.

It is possible that the British Churches would prefer that the next ABC have more of a pastoral role in his own Diocese and Province - rather than being expected to act as a referee elsewhere.

Posted by Father Ron Smith at Friday, 11 May 2012 at 11:48am BST

Why should faroff provinces have any say about who is to be the ABC, when he/she exercises no authority over them?

Posted by Old Father William at Friday, 11 May 2012 at 4:25pm BST
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