Comments: Results of House of Bishops' election for CNC

I am still not clear whether the Abp of Wales is a voting member? Peter can you please enlighten?

Posted by Perry Butler at Friday, 18 May 2012 at 5:48pm BST

Shaping up nicely.

Posted by Wilf at Friday, 18 May 2012 at 6:19pm BST

In the list of Six Aspects to the Role of the (next) Archbishop of Canterbury, I noticed that one of them may be of concern to those in the Church of England who are keen that there should be no interference from 'Flying Bishops' in the jurisdiction and work of the Women Bishops who may soon be authorised by the General Synod of the C. of E. to take their place in the mission and life of that Church.

One of the stated equirements, I noted, for the next ABC, is that he will continue to be responsible for the oversight of:

"Two 'Provincial Episcopal Visitors' who will report to the Archbishop in relation to the 163 parishes in the southern province which have petitioned for extended episcopal care under the Episcopal Ministry Act of Synod".

Presuming that the list of roles' relevant to the appointment of the next ABC has been revised and brought up to date for the current situation in the Church of England; it would appear that the 'Two Provincial Episcopal Visitors' already appointed by the present Archbishop of Canterbury will actually remain in place for the next ABC to have at his disposal for "Alternative Episcopal Oversight' in the dioceses of Women Bishops who may not be welcome to minister in parishes that are anti-Women Bishops.

Lest this be thought to be a pre-requisite of the expected duties of the prospective Archbishop of Canterbury, one might think that this particular provision ought not to appear in the list of official requirements. Otherwise, it might seem that the use of 'Provincial Episcopal Visitors' will be mandatory in the C. of E. - Unless, of course, that is actually expected to be needed!

Posted by Father Ron Smith at Saturday, 19 May 2012 at 1:18am BST


The Archbishop of Wales is a voting member of the CNC, as are all the members listed above, with the exception of the three stated to be non-voting members (ie the two appointments secretaries and the secretary general of the Anglican Communion).

Posted by Peter Owen at Saturday, 19 May 2012 at 7:58pm BST

Ron, regardless of the result of the "women bishops" vote at the July 2012 General Synod, it will be some time before a female bishop is appointed (let alone a diocesan) and in that time there will still be a requirement by the parishes that have petitioned under the existing rules for alternative episcopal oversight for ministry from a bishop acceptable to them. There are two for the southern province and one for the northern.

Until (Unless) the legislation is passed and comes in to force, the status quo ante applies.

Posted by RPNewark at Saturday, 19 May 2012 at 8:35pm BST

In the detailed voting figures two of the candidates are shown as having 'withdrawn'; given that any bishop on the cnc cannot be a candidate, is it reasonable to infer that they have therefore considered themselves 'archiepiscopabile'?!

Posted by peter kettle at Sunday, 20 May 2012 at 8:17pm BST

Peter Kettle - you are correct especially so with Richard Chartres who withdrew his name. Why?

Suggested reasons:

1. He thought he might not be elected to the nominations committee and as a senior figure that would be embarrassing.
2. It was a shrewd move in the 'surely not I Lord?' school as he reinstates himself as a candidate for Canterbury.
3. He should be taken at face value and feels too old and too fed up to be a candidate for anything.

Posted by Concerned Anglican at Monday, 21 May 2012 at 11:45pm BST
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