Comments: Methodist Church response to government consultation on equal civil marriage

"Marriage is a single legal and social entity. Nor do we believe that the Government should determine what is religious." - Methodist Church response -

Nobody is actually saing that Marriage is not a single state and entity - that is precisely why Same-Sex couples want to make the very same monogamous commitment to one another as anyone else.

Furthermore. the government is not even trying to 'determine what is religious'. The Church seems to be making a very bad job of doing just that.

Posted by Father Ron Smith at Wednesday, 20 June 2012 at 10:56am BST

It's better than the Church of England's response!

Posted by Fr James at Wednesday, 20 June 2012 at 12:40pm BST

"We do not believe that a distinction between “civil” and “religious” marriage is a helpful or correct one"

Gimme a break. Is there any other first world country that *doesn't* maintain such a distinction?

Posted by Randal Oulton at Thursday, 21 June 2012 at 1:32am BST


If that distinction is true, show me where one person would refer to their spouse by civil marriage and another their spouse by religious marriage, informally or on any official form. Marriage solemnised by civil ceremony is the same legal status as marriage solemnised by religious rite. No-one puts down their marital status as 'civil husband'. Civil partner, perhaps, but that's a different status to marriage entirely.

The dichotomy is false!

Posted by David Shepherd at Friday, 22 June 2012 at 12:33pm BST

Civil and canon law on marriage in England have surely been distinct since at least 1907, when civil law was amended to permit a particular type of marriage prohibited under canon law - specifically the marriage of a man to the sister of his deceased wife.

Posted by Malcolm French+ at Saturday, 23 June 2012 at 8:03am BST
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