Comments: Women Bishops - more news and comment

"I hope that, in whatever form we discuss it on Friday this week and Monday next week we can let the Bishops know that we need Women Bishops now, that those who cannot accept their ministry (or of those men who ordain or who have been ordained by women) should be treated with grace, and that the ministry of all Bishops is to be seen as equally valid and honoured." - Jeremy Fletcher's blog -

'That the ministry of ALL bishops should be seen as equally valid and honoured' - will never happen while a minority in the Church insists otherwise.
That is a simple fact, surely?

Posted by Father Ron Smith at Thursday, 5 July 2012 at 11:24am BST

Father Ron, when taking the Church Universal into consideration - which ecumenically Our Blessed Lord, urges us so to do, then those who approve of the innovation ARE the "minority"

Posted by Father David at Thursday, 5 July 2012 at 9:34pm BST

Well, it would be very interesting to know exactly what proportion of the Church Universal believed in any number of things - the ordination of women, the sinfulness of homosexuality, the Chalcedonian settlement, the "filioque", the sacrifice of the Mass, the five solas, the separation of church and state, secession (or not) of the spiritual gifts. I don't think there is an accurate picture of what the Church Universal believes about all of these things...

Posted by Alastair Newman at Friday, 6 July 2012 at 10:24am BST

UM I'm not at all sure the holy Spirit proceeds by a head-count.

Posted by Rosemary Hannah at Saturday, 7 July 2012 at 11:11am BST

Re the Holy Spirit and head-counts, I resort to St Winston (;-/) : "Democracy is the worst form of governance, except for all the others."

THAT said, this "worst/except" is ACTUAL democracy (where representation comes via the ballot). It's NOT "there's more of [Group X] who believe [Doctrine Y]." Any argument about OOW which is predicated on the numerical superiority of Roman Catholics is *automatic FAIL* in my book [As is the "majority of one", where that one is said to be "Peter"! St Peter of Galilee, God bless him, has been dead&gone over 1900 years...]

Posted by JCF at Monday, 9 July 2012 at 5:52am BST
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