Comments: Conciliation sought for bishops involved in property disputes

You could always reference the article from which ENS derived its information

Posted by George Conger at Monday, 29 October 2012 at 1:42am GMT

Thanks, George, here it is

Posted by Simon Sarmiento at Monday, 29 October 2012 at 10:30am GMT

Much as I appreciate the h/t, I was not the author of this article. Matthew Davies was the author. He used some background from a previous story of mine, if that counts ...;-)

Posted by Mary Frances Schjonberg at Tuesday, 30 October 2012 at 7:51am GMT

Whoop MFS, I got confused between the two articles, will fix now.

Posted by Simon Sarmiento at Tuesday, 30 October 2012 at 11:01am GMT

Canon IV.19.2 stipulates that, "No member of the Church, whether lay or ordained, may seek to have the Constitution and Canons of the Church interpreted by a secular court, or resort to a secular court to address a dispute arising under the Constitution and Canons, or for any purpose of delay, hindrance, review or otherwise affecting any proceeding under this Title."

TEC is seeking just this in Fort Worth.

Amicus Bishops are saying that the courts should stay away.

But the latter need to go before a conciliation panel?

Posted by cseitz at Wednesday, 31 October 2012 at 1:48pm GMT

No, the brief holds that the courts should not be involved in defining 'hierarchy' as this is against the First Amendment. The Episcopal Church is hierarchical only in relation to the diocese, as explicitly clarified in the constitution (TEC is the 'episcopal' church, not a 'general convention' church and much less a 'presiding bishop and her legal team and monies' church). If this is under dispute, then it is for the church to make explicit what it wishes to hold, by the mechanisms given for that (amend the constitution).

Posted by cseitz at Wednesday, 31 October 2012 at 2:37pm GMT
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