Comments: Same-sex marriage in churches: media coverage

It's pretty amusing that the religious right is calling the consultation a 'sham' owing to the change. They themselves hoped that the consultation would change the government direction, through their form-letter campaign directed at right-leaning religious people, but change in a way they wanted. When the consultation did in fact affect the government plans, but to their horror not in a way they wanted -- well, that's not fair, something's wrong.

We don't need religion to be able to understand any of this -- this is an all too human situation, and response, non?

It will be interesting to read what Miller unveils today, though the press is making it sound as though it will just confirm what they've already told us.

Posted by Randal Oulton at Tuesday, 11 December 2012 at 9:53am GMT

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9325508/Gay-marriage-plans-could-force-priests-to-marry-couples-in-church.html

This woman, Sharon James, is either deluded or trying deliberately to get away with a big porky pie.

Not a single church in Canada has been forced to perform a same sex marriage.

I'd be surprised if the woman had ever stepped foot in Canada or could name the Prime Minister even. She'd likely even get the Head of State wrong.

Posted by Randal Oulton at Tuesday, 11 December 2012 at 10:10am GMT

So Miller's just announced that the CofE will be prohibited from holding same-sex marriage, even if individual ministers want to, and requiring later primary legislation in order to change this. That's going to be fun: let's see what ministers within the CofE who claim not to be homophobic have to say about it.

Posted by Political Realise at Tuesday, 11 December 2012 at 12:49pm GMT

The Fourth Lock, so early on, is all I could ask for:

'The bill will explicitly ban the Church of England and the Church in Wales from conducting gay marriage'

'For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? But them that are without God judgeth.' (1 Cor 5:12,13)

Posted by David Shepherd at Tuesday, 11 December 2012 at 1:03pm GMT

Labour MPs get a free vote without the prospect of losing the whip.

Christmas came early this year.

Posted by David Shepherd at Tuesday, 11 December 2012 at 3:34pm GMT

We understand that the Church in Wales is unlikely to change its law and facilitate gay marriage here. So we have written to the Archbishop before the government announcement today laying out a scheme where TEC or the Canadian Church might establish a chaplaincy here and so via their auspices and under their national decisions to permit marriage to same sex couples we might proceed to support Anglicans here in Wales in the meantime.

Posted by Martin Reynolds at Tuesday, 11 December 2012 at 3:50pm GMT
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