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wrt breastfeeding Mary, the lady chapel at the Cathedral of the Isles in Millport, Cumbrae, Scotland has a picture of Mary breastfeeding.

Posted by kennedy fraser at Saturday, 15 December 2012 at 12:39pm GMT

Thank you for the "Two structures" link. It clears up some of the muddle in my mind - only some.

It does seem to indicate that the defence of doctrine and right worship is vested in the bishops in consultation with the priests and maybe the deacons; and whereas lay voices may be heard in the discussion of matters doctrinal, ritual and ceremonial, their right to be assertive is very limited. Their views carry much more weight when considering the secular management of the church.

This would seem to be the ancient and the present constitutional position, and it sets limits on what the Commons and Lords Temporal in Parliament may properly require of the Church. This consideration ought also to mute the voice of the House of Laity of General Synod when discussing matters doctrinal, ritual or ceremonial.

Or to put is another way, on matters doctrinal, ritual and ceremonial the "General Synod" only properly comprises the House of Bishops and House of Clergy acting as the old Convocations.

Am I getting it half right?

But I note that on the issue of the Women Bishops measure the laity asserted themselves not over the question of rightness of doctrine or practice, but over the matter of appropriate provision for the minority of bishops, clergy and laity holding to long established doctrine and resisting novelty.

When looking at the other current issue, do we need to be very clear about where the authority lies to amend both the canon law and the liturgy that define marriage?

Posted by Labarum at Saturday, 15 December 2012 at 5:00pm GMT

An interesting article on ikons of Our Lady breast feeding the infant Lord - or what was referred to on "Little Britain" as "bitty".
In that wonderful musical ikon - "In the bleak mid winter" (surely no carol can surpass the beauty of its poetry) we have that tremendous line:-
"A breastful of milk and a mangerful of hay" for the One whom "Cherubim worship night and day".
Also, in opposition to the papal ban on animals in the stable - there we find not only the "ox and ass" but also the "camel" in worshipful attendance.

Posted by Father David at Saturday, 15 December 2012 at 6:01pm GMT

Numerous Flemish, French and German painters of the early renaissance depicted this once popular image with great beauty and sensitivity. It is interesting that in an age of over sexualisation we somehow recoil at depicting such intimacy.

Posted by David d'Ambly at Saturday, 15 December 2012 at 8:49pm GMT
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