Comments: Committee completes its scrutiny of marriage bill

I am glad that we live in a country where such representations can be laid before the legislature while they are considering particular pieces of legislation.

But what a lot of horrible stuff they had to wade through. There is ample evidence here to suggest that lots of Christians are simply downright hostile to gay people: the whole characterisation is of gay people as fundamentally diseased, conspiratorial, destabilising, selfish and bad for society. It is such an unbalanced and unfriendly portrait of a group over against which they try to distinguish themselves (with the odd occasional claim to tolerance by telling us that they have had their gay niece and her partner to stay) that one might think it qualifies for the label homophobic. If I weren't a Christian already I wouldn't go within a million miles of what these people stand for - and I can't blame those who walk away.

Posted by Jeremy Pemberton at Wednesday, 13 March 2013 at 5:48pm GMT

I get the impression that they did a good job. David Burrowes worked very hard, bordering on filibuster but you got to love a tryer.

Even with filibustering they finished with time to spare so the issues have been fully explored but no doubt the Lords will go into detail on a number of points.

I am hoping for the govt to think again on a number of issues. The time for really testing things out will come in the report stage and in ping pong between the two chambers.

Am hoping for humanist ceremonies, pension equality and an announcement the govt will look at and consult on civil partnerships for straights (I think the Archbishop of Canyerbury presumably now supports this in the name of equality but we'll see; it would be nice to be on the same side in such debates).

Posted by Craig Nelson at Wednesday, 13 March 2013 at 6:42pm GMT

"Lisa S Nolland, MA MCS PhD (Bristol), is a sex-culture historian who has worked with kids and their families as a primary and secondary school teacher, youth worker, mentor and chaplain for many years. She convenes the Marriage, Sex and Culture Group (MSC) of Anglican Mainstream"

- Anglican Mainstream submission to Commission -

To use the term 'kids' puts me off straight away!
Ms Nolan is using out-dated theory to support her contentions about the innate sexual identity of GLBT people - with obviously no input from people who are actually involved. I do hope her silly and contentious submission got the attention it truly deserved.

Anglican Mainstream is surely better described as 'Anglican Slipstream' - with little influence in today's understanding of the world as it is.

Posted by Father Ron Smith at Wednesday, 13 March 2013 at 10:17pm GMT

The New Zealand Government has now passed its Second Reading of our Bill to allow Same-Sex Couples to marry. The voting - 77 Yes : 44 No

Posted by Father Ron Smith at Wednesday, 13 March 2013 at 10:20pm GMT

"Anglican Mainstream is surely better described as 'Anglican Slipstream' - with little influence in today's understanding of the world as it is." Father Ron Smith

If only that were true.

Whilst the submissions from Anglican Mainstream read like the green-ink frothings of nutters (it's a long time since I've seen so many scare quotes in one place as in Nolland's piece - and Alan Williams' submission was just a bizarre rant about a neo-Marxist gay plot to dominate the world, or something), who should be on its International Steering Committee, Convenor of its UK Steering Committee and a member of its Board of Trustees? Step forward our very own Chair of the Church of England House of Laity - Dr. Philip Giddings!

Posted by Laurence Cunnington at Thursday, 14 March 2013 at 10:45am GMT
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