Comments: Archbishop to meet LGBT Anglicans and Peter Tatchell

Kudos to Peter Tatchell for demanding and getting a meeting, and kudos to the Archbishop for agreeing to meet with him, and I hope, listen to him.

Posted by FD Blanchard at Thursday, 18 April 2013 at 1:29pm BST

This will test Justin Welby. The issue ruined his predecessor's time as Archbishop. I can't imagine that he'll do anything much except promise 'to listen' as he's already made his position clear.

I thought Welby looked a bit out of it and lost at Margaret Thatcher's funeral by the way.

Posted by Concerned Anglican at Thursday, 18 April 2013 at 2:20pm BST

This is the crucial item: A plea for no more statements about us without us.

In addition to the out and out ignorance of that awful report, was the jarring paternalistic "we know what's best for you" tone.

I wish the LGBT Anglican Coalition good luck. I hope this is the beginning of a long and productive dialogue, a sincere dialogue.

Clearly, some of the members on that commission need to retire so that those without fossilized views can take into account new information about human sexuality, strong work on theologies of diversity, and be open to the Spirit of God's love for all of of her/his creation.

Posted by Cynthia at Thursday, 18 April 2013 at 4:35pm BST

Prayers---prayers for conversion of ALL to the Heart of Christ!

Posted by JCF at Thursday, 18 April 2013 at 7:51pm BST

Sadly, I doubt whether the group meeting or the individual will have gained much ground. The present occupant of the Chair of St Augustine has spoken in such contradictory ways about the love that exists between same-sex couples, that there is little hope of a truth and reconciliation moment. The C of E will remain in its sad and condemnatory position when is comes to homosexual men and women, especially of those who have been incorporated into Christ through the waters of baptism.

Posted by Commentator at Thursday, 18 April 2013 at 9:33pm BST

I wish everyone well. Given the state of this issue in the CofE it may take longer to resolve than anyone's patience or even our lifetimes. Sadly the secular culture seems far more capable of loving and respecting their neighbors as they do themselves than does the church.

It might help if the occupant of the Chair of St. Augustine gets clear on whether he is some kind of Pope of the Communion or Primate of the Church of England to whom others are bound by bonds of tradition, respect and affection.

I would look out at the world and see how the Anglicans in Central Africa, the Catholics in France, the US and elsewhere treat their LGBT brothers, sisters and children and ask myself if I really want to live in that neighborhood.

For the vast majority of those under 40, the train has already left the station while the church is still on the platform arguing with the porters.

Posted by Fr. Bill at Friday, 19 April 2013 at 12:25am BST

The Gospel at our Mass today spoke of the incident of Saul's conversion to becoming Saint Paul. I do believe in miracles; and my prayer is that the ABC will, indeed, listen to the cries of the LGBT community in the Church of England, and that the Holy Spirit will bring mutual encouragement and enlightenment to both parties. "Faith is the substance of things (yet) unseen".

Posted by Father Ron Smith at Friday, 19 April 2013 at 1:14am BST

One suspects that LGBT people are about to be used as Exhibit A in the Archbishop's portfolio of reconciliations.

One hopes that the Archbishop realizes that reconciliation and a photo op are not the same thing.

Posted by Jeremy at Friday, 19 April 2013 at 1:46am BST

"I thought Welby looked a bit out of it and lost at Margaret Thatcher's funeral" (Concerned Anglican)
Well, let's give the guy a chance! He didn't, after all, have much more than a walk on part at the end to bestow a blessing. Certainly he was overshadowed by the presence and the gravitas of the great Bishop of London - who had a bigger role to play in giving both the sermon and the Commendation. But doesn't it just go to shew what an opportunity was missed following Rowan's retirement for surely Richard Chartres is the greatest Cantuar we never had!
In taking note of Bishop Richard's oration - I never thought I'd have cause to thank God for Margaret Thatcher - but her role in developing Mr. Whippy ice-cream has made me think otherwise.

Posted by Father David at Friday, 19 April 2013 at 6:47am BST

If the C of E now finds itself suddenly supporting heterosexual equality by opening up civil partnerships to them , shouldn't someone cobble together a specious theological argument using carefully selected biblical passages which show that civil partnerships are so special that they must be restricted only to those who are gay ?!
Also is there not a danger that all the heterosexuals entering civil partnerships will seriously undermine gay civil partnerships, and indeed become a positive danger to them , by undermining the special nature of civil partnerships ?
These comments are , of course, tongue in cheek but they do perhaps show the absurdity of those who argue that gay marriage will undermine marriage and threaten existing heterosexual marriages .

Posted by Salopian at Saturday, 20 April 2013 at 3:32am BST

Perhaps the real aim of those heterosexuals who have expressed opposition to Same-Sex Marriage may be to save Gays from the problems of serial monogamy that enable straight people the luxury of divorce - which, after all, can be 'blessed' in the church.

Surely that is better than offering a 'blessing' to monogamously and faithfully-partnered Gay people?

(tongue out of cheek)

Posted by Father Ron Smith at Saturday, 20 April 2013 at 11:35am BST

Yes, Salopian, I should hate to see my civil partnership underminded and devalued by the admission of opposite sex couples thereto !

Posted by Laurence Roberts at Sunday, 21 April 2013 at 1:31am BST

Yet *another* so-called church "leader" who is more concerned for some "church tradition" than doing what is right. Ugh!

Posted by MarkBrunson at Sunday, 21 April 2013 at 5:03am BST

" I’m ready to give him a chance. Time will tell…"

And we'll just give him enough rope to hang all of us.

Posted by MarkBrunson at Sunday, 21 April 2013 at 8:53am BST

A piece of eurditoin unlike any other!

Posted by Caelyn at Sunday, 28 April 2013 at 12:33pm BST
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