Comments: More speeches from the House of Lords debate on the marriage bill

These speeches brought tears of gratitude . Gratitude that these noble Lords are indeed just that, noble in thought, word and deed.

Would that some of our noble Bishops could find such nobleness of heart and thought.

But let us thank God for the voice of Lord Harries, and other Bishops and Deans who have had the courage to speak from their heart, against the tide of some of their brother Bishops.

Posted by Fr John E. Harris-White at Monday, 10 June 2013 at 8:35am BST

I am struck by the quality of these well formed and well argued speeches, whether one agrees with what the speakers are saying or not. And by the contrast with many of the speeches I have to listen to in General Synod. Reforming the constitution of General Synod is not just about better representation, it will also (hopefully) lead to a higher standard of engagement and debate.

Posted by Jane Charman at Monday, 10 June 2013 at 8:41am BST

Excellent speeches

Posted by Jean Mayland at Monday, 10 June 2013 at 10:26am BST

Excellent summary. Glad to see the arguments of sense so well set out.

Now, just, hurry up a bit... ;]

Posted by Tim at Monday, 10 June 2013 at 12:33pm BST

Those were healing words to hear. Thank you for posting them!

Posted by Cynthia at Monday, 10 June 2013 at 5:03pm BST

Somewhere on the Internet I read somthing on the lines of 'Regional accents apart the speeches for and against are more or less the same'. Generally I kind of agree having followed quite a few of these.

I do think there's something special about the House of Lords speeches. They are often very well thought through, insightful and sophisticated in their depth.

The House of Lords has, with its speeches, and the 2/3 majority shown itself in a very positive and creditable light. Which, given the difficulty of getting rid of it is probably just as well.

I think the House of Lords has played to its supposed strengths - respecting the preeminence of the elected Chamber, operating as a revising body with a breadth of experience and some incrediably profound speeches.

Posted by Craig Nelson at Monday, 10 June 2013 at 7:43pm BST

A brilliant summary and inspiring words from the Lords.

Posted by Anne Brooke at Monday, 10 June 2013 at 8:19pm BST

What a welcome contrast to the House of Bishops original objections as voiced by Justin Welby. It seems to me that this is the authentic Christian voice - if that is Jesus' message is all about love and compassion rather than strident denunciation.

Posted by Concerned Anglican at Monday, 10 June 2013 at 10:35pm BST

This is what all bishops should be saying, and perhaps soon will be saying.

Posted by Spirit of Vatican II at Tuesday, 11 June 2013 at 5:28am BST

Some of these speeches cheered me up no end after the pathetic show by our bishops last week. Thank God for such sensible contributions. I'm sorry bishops but you have completely lost the plot. You are now part of the problem rather than part of the solution to the problem.....I'm sorry to be "bishop bashing" but your contribution to the Lord's debate hit rock bottom for me.

Posted by Robert Ellis at Wednesday, 12 June 2013 at 10:06am BST

Yes, these Christian speeches contrast strongly with the Bishops' confused mumblings. What is the matter with the Bishops? It's hard to believe that they really believe that marriage is somehow under threat, yet they seem trapped by doctrines they think they ought to believe in order to be seen as respectable Christians. Meanwhile much of the actual Church - it's people - has left them behind. Part of the problem is clericalism - they spend too much time talking to themselves.
The URC has no official view on gay marriage, but has produced a good little study pack for congregations: CoE please note.

Posted by Helen at Friday, 14 June 2013 at 2:45pm BST
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