According to Archbishop Eliud Wabukala's Pastoral Letter, GAFCON 2013 will be attended by 'delegates' (the word he uses).
According to FCA, they "represent the majority of Anglicans in the Communion."
I think I know the answer to this, but can anyone say for definite how the delegates are appointed, and who exactly they represent?
Archbishop Eliud Wabukala conjurs up the same old ideal of being more Anglican, more Christian suitable, more brave, more spiritdriven than others at the Anglican Communion.
I truly believe that when our GAFCON/FCA brothers and sisters get off their self-praising/gratifying-better-than-holier-than-thou talking down to others campaign we will ALL be wiser/emotionally and spiritually healthier. The the example of humility and outreach/unity they show will be a strong/worthy power of attraction.
A greater love for one another will be nurtured throughout the Anglican Communion with UNITY and without righteous ¨better than¨ arrogance.
Afterall, it's way past time to realize/demonstrate the value in ALL of Gods children at the Body of Christ instead of destructive, and ongoing, fear/jear-mongering from some who have a personal history of gross mismagement, of resources human and otherwise, at some provinces.
Wasteful/pridefilled interference when attempting to share the gifts of God, for ALL the people of God, ought be thought a grave act against stewardship and fellowship at The Anglican Communion.
As Justin Welby, Archbishop of Canterbury, preached at the Cathedral of Santiago, Guatemala City recently: ¨The Church must address 'the injustice' within".
"By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.”
New International Version (NIV)
I find the GAFCON phenomenon depressing and a little sad. I almost feel sorry for them.
I suppose that they do represent a certain stage in Anglicanism, much closer to the time of the Reformation than we are now. Calvinistic, purist, with a tendency to split into competing factions.
I suppose also that the likes of 'Anglican Mainstream' are the nearest that the Church of England has to the Anglican Church of North America.
Lastly, I can't help feeling that there is an awful lot of hubris in all these pronouncements.
CMS would seem to have a lot for which to answer.
And the Sermon on the Mount / Plain is not top of their reading / praxis list, is it ?
This kind of obscurantist religion, stuck in the 1950s or before, will get us and them, no-where.
Or at least no-where I would wish to be.
Concerned Anglican you say that 'Anglican Mainstream' is the nearest thing to ACNA the C of E. I think that 'Reform' is a much better candidate for that sobriquet.
How does the Anglo-Catholic vs evangelical/reformed split manifest in GAFCON? Are they more Sydney than Rome?
I attended GAFCON in Jerusalem in 2008 as reporter for the Lesbian and Gay Christian Movement. At the time people wondered if there would be a formal split in the Anglican Communion. It did not happen.
They have shown themselves to be capable of producing a lot of hot air and little else. I think, and hope and pray, that other people around the world are waking up to this.
The Church on the ground - Africa and Asia included - is changing. People are becoming more accepting of lesbian and gay people as their societies change, even in Africa!
Praise God! This GAFCON movement will not last.
Rev. Iain Baxter,
All Saints, Chiang Mai, Thailand
(Not part of the Diocese of Singapore!)
Note how in Gafconese defending marriage is opposing homosexual unions, and they pass over divorce. These "bibliocentric" people would not be able to arrive at a consensus what the NT teaches as regards divorce.
Gafcon includes those who believe the Eucharist is a propitiatory sacrifice and others who would abominate that idea ( Sydney). Some pray for the dead and to the saints and others regard that as pagan. Both claim the bible as their authority!
However a strong evangelical like the forthcoming Irish woman Bishop (who disagrees with homosexual practice) designate would not be invited.
I am not too happy that one of our bishops in ACANZP is leading a (small) pilgrimage of New Zealand Anglicans to Nairobi. One wonders whether, if GAFCON chooses to 'walk away' from the Anglican Communion centred on Canterbury, this bishop will resign his See in our Church. We do not need another ACNA in New Zealand.
Come on, Ron
I think that is a bit uncharitable.
So Bishop Elena, from a diocese known for its strong evangelical theology for over a century, is inviting a number of people from several ANZP dioceses, to come with him to an international conference for (mainly) evangelical Anglicans. I can't see why that should make you "not too happy". I say let them go to the conference, and I pray they have a happy time; we may even be enriched by their experiences.
If in fact GAFCON does decide to "walk away" (though as Iain Baxter points out, that is actually not that likely), then indeed +Richard may find himself in a pretty uncomfortable position in relation to the rest of our Church. I think it behoves "liberals" like you and me, to make it very difficult for him to contemplate such a move, through our love and sensitivity.
" I think it behoves "liberals" like you and me, to make it very difficult for him to contemplate such a move, through our love and sensitivity."
- Edward Prebble -
Come, come, Edward. There are no fairies at the bottom of my garden. You and I both know that such loving and sympathetic treatment would never be reciprocated. My thought is that the umbilical connection between Sydney and Nelson is so great that it would take nothing less than the last trump to allow them to be reconciled to us.
Ron - so, in your copy of the gospels, Jesus tells us only to offer loving and charitable treatment if it is going to be reciprocated?
My only answer to you, Tim, is that 'loving the unlovable' is a two-way transaction. I am prepared to love them, but are they prepared to love me.
After all, Love cries out for reciprocation. I think even God has commanded us to love God!
'Cast not thy pearls before swine.... lest they turn and rend you.' Jesus as quoted in the gospel.
Maybe too illiberal - for those who would bash liberals - who know all about being turned upon and 'rended'.
"so, in your copy of the gospels, Jesus tells us only to offer loving and charitable treatment if it is going to be reciprocated?"
A great question to ask, Tim . . . IF you're talking to your mirror. ;-/ [i.e., logs & splinters]
"'Cast not thy pearls before swine.... lest they turn and rend you.' Jesus as quoted in the gospel.
Maybe too illiberal - for those who would bash liberals - who know all about being turned upon and 'rended'."
Interesting quote, Laurence. Dallas Willard, in his book 'The Divine Conspiracy', explicitly ties those words to the previous verses, about judging and taking the speck out of your own eye first. He points out that the reason pigs would turn and attack you is that you are digestible and pearls are not! The 'pearls', he says, may represent our 'pearls of wisdom' that we cast before people we want to judge. Any parent who has just given a teenage child the benefit of their wisdom and been surprised by the vehemence of the response knows exactly what Willard is talking about.
If he is right, then the pearls refer to words of judgement, not acts of love. And speaking of which, I have to say that the love offered to me by gay and lesbian Christians has had more to do with a gentling of my own attitude on this subject than any number of vehement words of condemnation of 'con/evos', which are so frequent on this site.
And Laurence, if I have 'bashed' you or any other self-described 'liberal' on this site, then I apologise without reservation. It was wrong of me to do so.
Tim, you and I are possibly a unique example of cooperation and acceptance of one another - even though you may be a self-described AnaBaptist - Anglican and I a Liberal Anglo-Catholic (who still enjoys the Prayer Book Mass as well as Modern Liturgy). Perhaps the secret of our eirenic relationship is the fact that we both objectively understand, and are unhappy with, the situation of the traditional treatment of women and homosexuals in the Church, and are determined to do something about it.
My beef is with people who contract out of our Anglican Communion Churches because of their emphatic rejection of the need to accept people to be who they biologically have been created by God to be - whether same-sex persons in search of an honest monogamous relationship with the person they love; or a woman, who feels called by God into the ministry of the Church.
Hi JCF - if you (in the spirit of the words of Jesus in today's gospel about rebuke) have a specific instance or instances in mind where I have only offered love to people when I know that it will be reciprocated, then I will be happy to hear the details so that I can mend my ways.
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