Comments: Parliament asks about episcopal appointments

'I know a number of senior women in the Church of England and have a great deal of respect for them. One of them is the wife of my good friend the Vicar of Putney.'

Either the noble Lord, Lord Wallace was confused as to the identity, gender and occupation of his good friend; or the compositor of this section of Hansard was having a bad day. It should surely read: One of them is the Vicar of Putney, the wife of my good friend the noble Lord, Lord Newby (LD). Delightful and competent though the Revd the Team Rector of Putney is, she is some way back in the ranks of 'senior women in the Church of England', and I would be very surprised if she were to have herself in mind for the episcopate within the next 8 years before she might choose to retire at 65, like wise bishops who go before reaching 70 - another burst of gobbledegook from the noble Lord or the scribe.

Posted by Peter Edwards at Tuesday, 15 October 2013 at 5:36pm BST

Can anyone clarify for a benighted colonial how the process differs for Europe? (I'm assuming the Chief Minister of Gibraltar doesn't put together a CNC, etc.)

Posted by Geoff at Tuesday, 15 October 2013 at 7:24pm BST

Hansard is a tidied up version of what was actually said in the House. A video recording of this exchange is online here:

http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Main/Player.aspx?meetingId=13881&st=15:02:34

It is instructive to listen to this while reading the Hansard text above.

From the recording what Lord Wallace actually said was "One of them indeed is the wife of my good friend um the the Vicar of Putney" so Hansard is quite accurate, but perhaps a comma should have been inserted in place of the um.

Posted by Peter Owen at Tuesday, 15 October 2013 at 9:11pm BST

The constitution of the Diocese in Europe states:

6 (a) The diocesan bishop shall be appointed by the Archbishop of Canterbury, the Bishop of London and a person in episcopal orders nominated by the Standing Committee of the Anglican Consultative Council, acting jointly.

(b) The Standing Committee of the Diocesan Synod, together with the diocesan members of the General Synod, shall act as the Vacancy in See Committee for the Diocese. It shall follow the Vacancy in See procedures as laid down by the General Synod for all the other dioceses.

(c) Before an appointment is made, a consultation shall take place between the Archbishop of Canterbury, the Bishop of London, the bishop nominated by the Standing Committee of the Anglican Consultative Council, the central members of the Crown Nominations Commission and those persons elected by the Standing Committee of the Diocesan Synod.

The diocesan magazine states that "The nominee in this instance is an Archbishop from Nigeria."

The list of CNC dates linked above includes two meetings for Gibraltar in Europe and the Commission will make a nomination just as it does for sees in England, although in this case it will have to include the consultations mentioned in 6(c). But because it is not a crown appointment, the nomination is sent to the three people listed in 6(a) instead of to the Prime Minister.

Posted by Peter Owen at Tuesday, 15 October 2013 at 9:44pm BST

"Lord Wallace of Saltaire: It may simply be a useful movement towards transparency. I know there are those who would like the Church of England to remain as it was 150 years ago or more, but as a member of the Church of England, I am extremely happy that it has moved and modernised over the last few years."

And, hopefully, it will very shortly get of its proverbial and push through General Synod an unencumbered legislation for the ordination of women as bishops - without let or hindrance!

Posted by Father Ron Smith at Wednesday, 16 October 2013 at 10:29am BST

Thanks, Peter!

Posted by Geoff at Wednesday, 16 October 2013 at 10:26pm BST
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