Comments: another round-up of comment on the Pilling report

I'd like to thank Simon for the link to the story he so accurately describes as apocalyptic; this is, presumably a euphemism. As ever, the best thing about such articles is the comments they attract. Indeed, I skimmed the more tedious parts of the article, of which there were several, but was kept reading by anticipation of the upcoming delights. I was not disappointed. The phrase "don't let the door slam on the way out" seems the only sensible response to this sort of stuff.

"Very disturbing. The See must be removed from Canterbury and moved to Africa. As it was said from Africa, the Anglican Communion in this day must become biblically centered, not geographically centered around the apostate insanity taking place at Canterbury. Those of us who stand for biblical orthodoxy and the inerrancy of Scripture, those who still believe that the 39 Articles are as relevant today as they were when they were written, are blind if we do not clearly see the workings of the evil one at play in the CoE. The wheat is being separated from the chaff, and the winnowing room in England has become filled with the chaff. It has become plainly clear that Canterbury has outlived its purpose. Those who are faithful to orthodoxy must not bow to Baal, but must come out from among them and be separate. Unless a sovereign move of God take place, it is inevitable that the worldwide Communion will be torn asunder, and in fact the tear in the fabric has perhaps already reached the point where it may no longer be repaired."

Posted by Interested Observer at Thursday, 19 December 2013 at 4:50pm GMT

Father O'Murchu's assertions about the doctrine of marriage are simply wrong. The Council of Trent does not mention procreation at all in its canons on the sacrament of marriage. The Catechism of the Council gives the first end of marriage as 'the society of the other sex, sought by the instinct of nature', and the 'desire for procreation' as the second. It is the Second Vatican Council in its final Constitution 'Gaudium et Spes' of 1965 that declares 'The institution of marriage and married love are, of their nature, directed to the begetting and upbringing of children and they find their culmination in this.' It is just mythologising on his part to present these easily verifiable facts in the way that he chooses.

Posted by Robin Ward at Friday, 20 December 2013 at 12:12pm GMT

'Father O'Murchu's assertions about the doctrine of marriage are simply wrong'

That may be true - or not. However Fr O'Murchu is surely right to say that the church has not yet come to terms with what human sexuality is. My sexuality has something to do what what it means for me to be a human being at the deepest and most intimate level. If the church is confused over what it means to be human, it can have little to say about salvation. If human sexuality is seen as something to be avoided (apart from for those of us in hetero-sexual marriages) then our message will fail to connect with the majority of the population. We end up preaching something which is life-denying, rather than helping people to find a place where they can be blessed by God through the quality of their relationships.

Posted by Nigel LLoyd at Friday, 20 December 2013 at 3:21pm GMT
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